Coronavirus (2021) thread

[hammocity]

I'd have loved to replied, yes it's over its finished. Just feel it's got a way to run yet. I hope I'm wrong pal

Just like the Second World War, 1940, "it'll be over by Christmas" well it was but about 5 years later, like you I hope you're wrong but I agree with your pessimistic forecast.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

it would help if they turned the bloody central heating down or off now and then. Hospitals are absolutely boiling places and they seem to think as people are ill it’s mandatory to have the antiquated central heating system pumping out on full power 24 hours a day . Breeding germs . I imagine even in the heatwave last week they will have been on full power.

global warming would be solved if the NHS a turned its heating off or down now and then.

The Telegraph article wasn't saying over half of admissions caught Covid in hospital but that over half of 'Covid' admissions were for other conditions and they also happened to test positive for Covid once in (see my example in my last post).

Falsely attributing hospital admissions or deaths to Covid when in a lot of cases it isn't doesn't help make reasoned decisions and it smacks of a deliberate attempt to panic people.

 

[hammocity]

2 weeks ago, my daughter, her husband and 7 day old baby boy started to feel ill. Coughing, breathless, temperature, fatigue. Whilst my daughter has been pregnant they’ve lived like hermits, working from home, online food shopping, basically just going out to take their 2 year old to nursery. My daughter and my baby grandson ended up in Oldham Royal for 10 days, where they initially assumed it was COVID. Swabs revealed bacteria pneumonia. Baby had his lungs drained, was on oxygen, and intravenous antibiotics. The consultant told my daughter that the likelihood is that my granddaughter brought some sort of infection from nursery, that shes just brushed off, but a new baby and 2 adults who have pretty much shielded for a year have succumbed to. After 10 days in hospital, they were told the bed/room was needed and my grandson was go home, but return every day as an outpatient, for 3 hours on intravenous antibiotics. The children’s ward is literally full of kids with respiratory illness. My daughter heard the ward nurses on the phone to A&E saying they couldn’t take anymore admissions.

Oh man, that's so distressing to hear, best wishes to all your family, and obviously hope the hospital can return to some kind of normality to treat all patients with the attention they need, cradle to the grave, never been so appropriate, young and old alike.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I see 1/2 the people who have been in hospital for Covid have caught it while in hospital for somthing else. So much for the "Wonderful" NHS.
Infection control is just bloody awful and has been for decades.

Can you link a source for the claim please?

 

[Gabriel]

2 weeks ago, my daughter, her husband and 7 day old baby boy started to feel ill. Coughing, breathless, temperature, fatigue. Whilst my daughter has been pregnant they’ve lived like hermits, working from home, online food shopping, basically just going out to take their 2 year old to nursery. My daughter and my baby grandson ended up in Oldham Royal for 10 days, where they initially assumed it was COVID. Swabs revealed bacteria pneumonia. Baby had his lungs drained, was on oxygen, and intravenous antibiotics. The consultant told my daughter that the likelihood is that my granddaughter brought some sort of infection from nursery, that shes just brushed off, but a new baby and 2 adults who have pretty much shielded for a year have succumbed to. After 10 days in hospital, they were told the bed/room was needed and my grandson was go home, but return every day as an outpatient, for 3 hours on intravenous antibiotics. The children’s ward is literally full of kids with respiratory illness. My daughter heard the ward nurses on the phone to A&E saying they couldn’t take anymore admissions.

Terribly sorry to read that and pray everyone recuperates quickly.

Sounds similar to problems being faced in the Netherlands with RS.

https://nltimes.nl/2021/07/21/dutch-hospitals-full-kids-sick-rs-virus

 

[BlueHammer85]

how can it just go down this quick ?


Jakarta's daily cases dropped from 14,619 on 12 July to 2,662 on 25 July, marking a dramatic decrease.

The city's governor Anies Baswedan said the situation is now "very different", and the government is now planned to ease some social restrictions.

 

[grunge]

how can it just go down this quick ?


Jakarta's daily cases dropped from 14,619 on 12 July to 2,662 on 25 July, marking a dramatic decrease.

The city's governor Anies Baswedan said the situation is now "very different", and the government is now planned to ease some social restrictions.

in the UK I was thinking a behavioural change ( not reporting due to not wanting to isolate etc ). but with it being mirrored a bit else where maybe the r0 hitting 6/7 has meant its burned its self out in local pockets before wide community spreading?

 

[Newman Noggs]

Just out of interest, two of my friends, a couple, returned recently from opening up their holiday let in Sardinia. During their 10 day isolation on return, both were visited by health workers at random times, separately and by different workers, to ensure they were abiding by their quarantine conditions.

 

[Marvin]

how can it just go down this quick ?


Jakarta's daily cases dropped from 14,619 on 12 July to 2,662 on 25 July, marking a dramatic decrease.

The city's governor Anies Baswedan said the situation is now "very different", and the government is now planned to ease some social restrictions.

Was like that in India too. Delta is more contagious and outcompeted other strains so it makes sense that it should spike upwards. Why would it collapse? Because no more people left to infect? Will it drop to zero or find a base level. If the R is less than zero it should exponentially decay to zero but in countries like India where the Delta variant has been through it has not decayed to zero. I struggle to understand that. Perhaps its because immunity fades and boosts R so that you get an equilibrium which ticks over until something happens to the virus.

 

[west didsblue]

Maybe every time delta jumps from one person to the next there's a slight mutation that makes it less transmissible the next time, and after 4 or 5 jumps it's done.
That might might be absolute bollocks but maybe someone who knows a bit more about epidemiology could say whether that's a realistic scenario?