Coronavirus (2021) thread

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Terribly sorry to read that and pray everyone recuperates quickly.

Sounds similar to problems being faced in the Netherlands with RS.

https://nltimes.nl/2021/07/21/dutch-hospitals-full-kids-sick-rs-virus

Who’d have thought that having kids with no immune system wouldn’t end well……

 

[KingRuben]

Just been for a PCR as tested positive on LFT last night. It was such a feint like I almost missed it.

Weirdly, my 1 year old was poorly almost two weeks ago with a bad cough and high fever, she was tested but was negative. I then developed a cough about 5/6 days ago but I assumed it might’ve been from aircon/fan as I did two LFTs and was negative.

Then yesterday I went and had my second Pfizer vaccine, felt crap last night so did a test and was positive.

Really confused - I could have a cough from whatever baby has had and then I’ve randomly caught covid last few days - or maybe it was covid she had and I’ve had it since last week too.

I’m 26 and had 2nd dose yesterday so assuming I’m going to be okay, but it is making me anxious thinking is this going to get worse etc.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Maybe every time delta jumps from one person to the next there's a slight mutation that makes it less transmissible the next time, and after 4 or 5 jumps it's done.
That might might be absolute bollocks but maybe someone who knows a bit more about epidemiology could say whether that's a realistic scenario?

It is indeed absolute bollocks, I'm afraid.

Virus mutates all the time, but if it becomes less transmissible then people with the original, more transmissible strain will pass that on to more people, so the new, less transmissible strain just dies out.

 

[west didsblue]

It is indeed absolute bollocks, I'm afraid.

Virus mutates all the time, but if it becomes less transmissible then people with the original, more transmissible strain will pass that on to more people, so the new, less transmissible strain just dies out.

But if you get it and you're out of circulation for a couple of weeks, you're going to stop transmitting it, and the people transmitting it on would be those that you've infected who would have a less transmissible version.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

But if you get it and you're out of circulation for a couple of weeks, you're going to stop transmitting it, and the people transmitting it on would be those that you've infected who would have a less transmissible version.

You've lost me In afraid.

But the bottom line is that the virus mutates all the time.

This mutations may make it more or less transmissible, or no change. There's no reason at all they should always go in one direction.

Any strain that mutates to become less transmissible it'll be outcompeted by other, more transmissible strains, including the original one so it'll die out*

*unless it has some other advantage eg being vaccine resistant

 

[vincent]

Just out of interest, two of my friends, a couple, returned recently from opening up their holiday let in Sardinia. During their 10 day isolation on return, both were visited by health workers at random times, separately and by different workers, to ensure they were abiding by their quarantine conditions.

Well if Spain and Greece do go on to amber plus as reported, they’re going to be very busy in the coming weeks. Impossible to police as there will be hundreds of thousands (if not millions) returning from those places that should self isolate.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Meanwhile in the US

A dick glued to the forehead is the required proof I think.

 

[BlueAnorak]

2 weeks ago, my daughter, her husband and 7 day old baby boy started to feel ill. Coughing, breathless, temperature, fatigue. Whilst my daughter has been pregnant they’ve lived like hermits, working from home, online food shopping, basically just going out to take their 2 year old to nursery. My daughter and my baby grandson ended up in Oldham Royal for 10 days, where they initially assumed it was COVID. Swabs revealed bacteria pneumonia. Baby had his lungs drained, was on oxygen, and intravenous antibiotics. The consultant told my daughter that the likelihood is that my granddaughter brought some sort of infection from nursery, that shes just brushed off, but a new baby and 2 adults who have pretty much shielded for a year have succumbed to. After 10 days in hospital, they were told the bed/room was needed and my grandson was go home, but return every day as an outpatient, for 3 hours on intravenous antibiotics. The children’s ward is literally full of kids with respiratory illness. My daughter heard the ward nurses on the phone to A&E saying they couldn’t take anymore admissions.

So many like this now. Long term isolation is not good for resistance against the standard infections we can get.
Its just one of the reasons why fully opening up now most of society is vaccinated, especially the vulnerable, is critical for our overall health.

 

[Quad]

Just out of interest, two of my friends, a couple, returned recently from opening up their holiday let in Sardinia. During their 10 day isolation on return, both were visited by health workers at random times, separately and by different workers, to ensure they were abiding by their quarantine conditions.

Happened to my neighbours who had covid

 

[west didsblue]

You've lost me In afraid.

But the bottom line is that the virus mutates all the time.

This mutations may make it more or less transmissible, or no change. There's no reason at all they should always go in one direction.

Any strain that mutates to become less transmissible it'll be outcompeted by other, more transmissible strains, including the original one so it'll die out*

*unless it has some other advantage eg being vaccine resistant

Fair enough.

As I said, it was just a thought. The drop off seems so dramatic even in countries with low vaccination rates that it would appear something unusual is happening.