Coronavirus (2021) thread

[hgblue]

The BMJ suggests that as of July 2021, a bit out of date I accept, but I would think the figures would show an even bigger gap, that of 40,000 admissions 84% had not been vaccinated with 13% having had one dose and 3% had had both doses!, Quite compelling numbers I'm sure you'd agree?

Covid-19: How is vaccination affecting hospital admissions and deaths?

An analysis of UK data from the National Immunisation Management Service (NIMS) and the Coronavirus Clinical Information Network (CO-CIN),1 endorsed by the UK Scientific and Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE),2 shows that of 40 000 patients with covid-19 who were admitted to hospital between...

www.bmj.com

Hang on, December 2020? Hardly anyone was vaccinated back then. Just checked my card and I wasn't vaccinated until mid March 2021.

 

[Gabriel]

They are on basically the same level as us. we're on 67.8 they are 67.7.

How France overtook us I'll never know. I guess the threat to not being allowed into Cafe's really worked.

Threaten to hit them in the pocket and it’s amazing how many suddenly reconsider their ‘principles’.
https://www.ekathimerini.com/news/1172805/appointments-tripled-after-announcement-mandating-jabs/

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Hang on, December 2020? Hardly anyone was vaccinated back then. Just checked my card and I wasn't vaccinated until mid March 2021.

Started on December 8th, so assume thousands of 70+ were vaccinated by 1 Jan 2021.

 

[paulbob]

Has anyone had three vaccinations of the same vaccine?

Also, any data on the efficacy of having the same vaccine three times?

I ask as I had a double dose of AZ but I also want an AZ booster for medical reasons.

My wife and I had all 3 doses of the Pfizer vaccine

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

 

[M18CTID]

I think the seeds of doubt are being sown by the US still not approving the AZ vaccine and we recommended not using for the under forties. Also all boosters here are Pfizer and Mordena. Going forward it is unlikely we will be using AZ in the future.

Germany and Austria are behind the curve compared to France, Spain or Italy. They had looser vaccine passport requirements and Germany has an East Germany problem with vaccine hesitancy. The issues are largely cultural.

I have to say that over 30 years on from unification I'm surprised there are still notable issues amongst the population in the East. I've visited several places in the old East Germany over the past few years and I can honestly say that I couldn't really tell the difference between East and West, whereas back in 1989, for example, those differences would've been stark.

 

[inbetween]

Has anyone had three vaccinations of the same vaccine?

Also, any data on the efficacy of having the same vaccine three times?

I ask as I had a double dose of AZ but I also want an AZ booster for medical reasons.

I think it depends on your age, isn't the AZ vaccine still banned in the under 40's?

I'm under 40 and had the AZ vaccine before they changed the advice but I'll not be allowed AZ again even though I'd still prefer it.

Otherwise though I think you get what you're given.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I have to say that over 30 years on from unification I'm surprised there are still notable issues amongst the population in the East. I've visited several places in the old East Germany over the past few years and I can honestly say that I couldn't really tell the difference between East and West, whereas back in 1989, for example, those differences would've been stark.

I spent quite a bit of time in Leipzig around 2007-8 as my girlfriend at the time was studying there. I was pretty staggered at how different it was to Berlin. Way less people spoke English and it definitely felt a lot less "western" than Berlin. And it's only about an hours train ride away.

It may have / probably has changed now though. I haven't been there since.

 

[bavarian blue]

I think it depends on your age, isn't the AZ vaccine still banned in the under 40's?

I'm under 40 and had the AZ vaccine before they changed the advice but I'll not be allowed AZ again even though I'd still prefer it.

Otherwise though I think you get what you're given.

AZ isn't being used for boosters. I had 2×AZ and a Moderna booster.

 

[Manc in London]

I think it depends on your age, isn't the AZ vaccine still banned in the under 40's?

I'm under 40 and had the AZ vaccine before they changed the advice but I'll not be allowed AZ again even though I'd still prefer it.

Otherwise though I think you get what you're given.

I am 48. Good to see I have not given others the impression I am an oldie.

I currently have Bell's Palsy. Not sure what caused it. Looking at possible causes it is most likely either Covid (my sense of smell and taste were not great for a week or so before my face started to resemble Quasimodo's) or my immune system was in overdrive (had the flu jab two weeks earlier and I take high dose Vit D and Zinc, and had both Covid jabs).

Looking at the Lancet, a report recommends considering not taking mRNA vaccines if you have had Bell's Palsy as the risk of getting it again following an mRNA vaccination is three times more likely. I then looked at the NHS website and it said some people can have three jabs of the same vaccine if it is considered the best option for that person.

I would think vaccination centres will have all three vaccinations (AZ, Pfizer and Moderna). No idea how I can ensure I get AZ or avoid a long winded discussion at the vaccination centre and then walking out with no jab. Would ask my doc but it takes three weeks to get a telephone appointment.