Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Probably just the telegraph mangling the data. I'd guess whatever their source is has researched 2xAZ + 1xPfizer
No, that isn’t the case. Can’t link it as the app is playing up but it is an Oxford University study and they have direct quotes from Professor Sir John Bell, who led it. It’s just waiting to be peer reviewed.
 


And exactly as thought. Good luck to governments encouraging this demographic to take up boosters or further vaccines going forward. They have fucked it for themselves with poor messaging and restrictions.

Falkirk FC btw, separate from this. 380 fans allowed at their boxing day match, but their bar/lounge is open and live streaming the game. It's an absolute nonsense.
 
Meanwhile, probably more important than the relatively modest reduction in severity reported, the exponential growth seems to be, at last, tailing off.

This makes much more difference than the severity to peak hospitalisation.

Very hard to know to what extent it's reporting related, but more and more convincing that the restrictions, whether voluntary, compulsory or just closure related are making a significant impact.

 
The big reality checks are probably around Covid showing up that we have too few hospital beds, insufficient workforce with the appropriate skills and inadequate collaboration between healthcare providers eg to staff Nightingales - to cope with simple or bigger pandemics in the future.
There may also have to be a rethink about the role of care provision in society more widely. We all know that some will be looking for scapegoats from the public inquiries, but the more important thing will be to identify the underlying problems and fix those so that care becomes more holistic and meets the demands of the population.
 
The BBC still saying 'might' about any hospital reduction this morning. That ship has sailed. It did so in most eyes at least a week ago but is now on the other side of the ocean. Maybe they are afraid they will have to find a new story to keep people hooked by doing journalism. God help us if an asteroid ever heads this way and we have to listen to the BBC for months telling us as it sails off into the galaxy that there remains a possibility it might turn around and come back.

There is being cautious and being scaremongering. I have worked for the beeb and sadly these games are not new.
 
The fact we completely rubbished the AZ vaccine and wouldn't give it to most of our population probably doesn't help, the fact the other vaccines are 10x the cost too.
Well we didn’t and I had two doses but large parts of the world did. AZ is the one for poorer countries as it doesn’t need special storage conditions and it is by far the cheapest but probably most countries that need it won’t want it.

A real shame.
 
No, that isn’t the case. Can’t link it as the app is playing up but it is an Oxford University study and they have direct quotes from Professor Sir John Bell, who led it. It’s just waiting to be peer reviewed.

Gotcha. You're absolutely right, it's a clinical study rather than real world monitoring.

 
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