That is possibly the most grimly pessimistic post I've read on here.I agree with everything you've said. Worries me because I think the vaccine with reduce illness but not stop transmission.
I honestly don't see life ever being 'normal' again.
I mean, do you ever see full football stadiums again for eg?
I'm optimistic! Yes! I think eventually we will win. It's just going to be a long road, and we have to accept the need to move with caution.I agree with everything you've said. Worries me because I think the vaccine with reduce illness but not stop transmission.
I honestly don't see life ever being 'normal' again.
I mean, do you ever see full football stadiums again for eg?
Life is worth living... even when it gets bad, people still hold on to it. What I'm trying to say is that what we take as 'living' changes over time. People should be prepared to accept that at some point, some limitations or things we'd never have previously accepted will make it much easier to live more fully. Repeated testing and virus passports, for example. If we insist it's all or nothing, then we're doomed to keep relaxing measures and taking a casual attitude, then having to go backwards and almost start again from scratch. Slow but steady, and a good deal of caution, is the only way we can be sure we will fight our way out completely.Whyever not?
life isn’t worth living if you don’t live
if it gets to the point where they want to restrict human contact to that extent permanently (next year, 2 years, 5 years).
there has to be a time when you admit defeat and just take the risks.
all the science suggests that is not what will happen btw. Yes it will be lived with but there will be a day when it is decided you know what you don’t need to treat this as some special virus. The difficulty is going to be which major nation will go first for the rest to follow
They can spread it amongst themselves once the rest have been vaccinated. It wont really matter?
That's one scenario. Quite a realistic one, but we need to be careful and thorough to make sure we don't end up with something much worse.That is possibly the most grimly pessimistic post I've read on here.
Life will get back to normal but we may have the equivalent of an additional flu to deal with. Flu kills people all year round and in a low year it is around 7000 deaths but in a bad year its around 22,000. Life will go on because it has to.
I live not too far from Blackburn and could tell you why I think this is the case.Watch Areas:-
Blackburn and Darwen became the first place in England to get a Pop Score above 10,000 joining Merthyr Tydfil in Wales who got there a few days ago.
Blackburn used to be neck and neck with Oldham in late Autumn but today had more than double the Pop rise for Oldham as it has for ages and at 10, 060 is now nearly 2000 ahead of Oldham. Showing how Oldham turned it round and Blackburn are struggling still. Though their cases are half what they were just after Christmas so they are falling like the rest of the NW.
This 10,000 pop score means their minimum number who have had Covid is 10% of the population. Ironically the exact same percentage who by the end of this weekend will have had the vaccine in England.
I thought we are talking about the future here? Your point is that we can’t go back to normal because that risks us regressing.I'm optimistic! Yes! I think eventually we will win. It's just going to be a long road, and we have to accept the need to move with caution.
Life is worth living... even when it gets bad, people still hold on to it. What I'm trying to say is that what we take as 'living' changes over time. People should be prepared to accept that at some point, some limitations or things we'd never have previously accepted will make it much easier to live more fully. Repeated testing and virus passports, for example. If we insist it's all or nothing, then we're doomed to keep relaxing measures and taking a casual attitude, then having to go backwards and almost start again from scratch. Slow but steady, and a good deal of caution, is the only way we can be sure we will fight our way out completely.
When you get a course of medicine, or physio, you do all of it, and then hopefully you're better. Or you can dump it as soon as you feel ok, and take the risk that it can come back worse.
Only if you have the pointswill be some allowed
I'm going for the life will return to normal option if that's what you want. I can't see any mandatory restrictions being in place long term but if individuals decide that they prefer to wear a mask in shops or never go back to watching football live then it is entirely a personal choice.That's one scenario. Quite a realistic one, but we need to be careful and thorough to make sure we don't end up with something much worse.
It's pretty simple; Life will go on is a certainty, a must. Life will go back to normal is nearly the same thing. But life going back to exactly how it was before? That's simply not a universal 'must'. People make changes in how they live for all sorts of reasons. We've got very comfortable with one way of life that hasn't changed in a long while. It wasn't what came before, and it might not be what comes after. Change scares people more than it need do. There's always an upside. You'd never accept it unless you knew what other people have found out. That life can change, that you wouldn't have expected or sought it out, but we make it work, and end more or less as happy as before.