Coronavirus (2021) thread

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unicorn said:
As predicted, BBC news leading on the threat caused in rise in "R" rate to an "estminated" (sic) 0.7 - 0.9.

No context of school return, the reduction in admissions, or even that an "R" rate below 1 means cases are still falling.
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Its just poor jounalism. Healdplace and others on here have not only consistently reported the up to date covid facts accurately on this forum compared to the BBC but have also anlaysed the data and explained it significantly better.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Its just poor jounalism. Healdplace and others on here have not only consistently reported the up to date covid facts accurately on this forum compared to the BBC but have also anlaysed the data and explained it significantly better.
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The BBC headline is that infections are levelling off. Hasn’t Healdplace been saying that? The R rate edging up to 0.7 to 0.9 is a few bullet points down on a list on the BBC News website
 
Greater Manchester Summary:

Cases up 11 on yesterday to 423. Last week 187 (under reported due to glitch by around 250 ish).

v wk before 456.

Out of NW total today of 767 - up 20 on yesterday - GM percentage of NW total stays at 55.1%


Manchester top scores - up 10 to 90. Up massively (like all today) on the very underreported number last wk of 34.

Oldham second on 51 - up just 3 but by 28 wk to wk so like many big Pop rise will occur.

Tameside third on 48 - up 17 in day but 25 on last wk

Bolton has 47 - which is down 3 on yesterday - but up from the underreported 12 allocated last week.

Midway is Wigan on 41 - down from 47 yesterday but up 23 on last week

Rochdale is sixth on 33 - down 2 on the day but up from 20 last week.

Salford one fewer on 32 - also down 2 day to day but up 7 from last week.

Stockport is at 31 - down from 42 yesterday but up from that unluckily misreported 13 last week. This was actually a good day and Stockport had lowest Pop rise today.

Trafford rose quite a bit today (in fact it LOST Pop Score points to Stockport as it scored higher pro rata for first time in ages!) On 29 - most in 2 weeks. Its Pop will not fare well versus the very misleading 2 it got last week.

So that means Bury was lowest scorer today with 21 - down 3 on yesterday but up 10 wk to wk for the same reason as everyone else.


The Weekly Pop Table will look a bit sad tonight with all those rises but it will get better from here when normality returns tomorrow. It only really impacts the day 7 days later given how it works.

Will post the full GM pop table later as usual.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
The BBC headline is that infections are levelling off. Hasn’t Healdplace been saying that? The R rate edging up to 0.7 to 0.9 is a few bullet points down on a list on the BBC News website
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The BBC led the 3pm news by telling us that "R" was increasing. No context, no explanation, just drama.
 
Unfortunately the England hospital numbers today are a little disappointing as Friday tends to have a big drop.

Last week for context there were 252 fewer patients and 48 fewer ventilators.

Today down just 51 patients and 7 ventilators. Lowest on a Friday in some weeks.

North West was down a little on both but a few regions went up - South East up by 27 patients and 9 ventilators.

Actually this might have been an error in the data as it fell rather a lot in both yesterday 84 patients and 13 ventilators - which did at the time seem out of synch with the other regions.

South East are down in both from 2 days ago by similar small falls as the other regions so I do now suspect a data error created too big a fall yesterday.

Either way it is not quite as bad as it seems if you do not notice that anomaly.

And either way down is down.

Full report on the regions and UK numbers later as usual.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
The BBC headline is that infections are levelling off. Hasn’t Healdplace been saying that? The R rate edging up to 0.7 to 0.9 is a few bullet points down on a list on the BBC News website
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That is true, but they also provide out of date hospital data, which i believe Healdplace has pointed out several times. And there is nowhere near the anlaysis of data on any of our main news channels as there is on here. Simole things like weekly falls in hospital numbers and deaths are hardly ever reported. The differences in test results from different types of tests like Shemnel just posted is clearly interesting and throws up questions. But things like this never get reported.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
That is true, but they also provide out of date hospital data, which i believe Healdplace has pointed out several times. And there is nowhere near the anlaysis of data on any of our main news channels as there is on here. Simole things like weekly falls in hospital numbers and deaths are hardly ever reported. The differences in test results from different types of tests like Shemnel just posted is clearly interesting and throws up questions. But things like this never get reported.
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Yes the info and the figures provided by Healdplace are great.

I was warming to the BBC’s analysis, particularly Fergus Walsh commenting on the vaccine fall out with the EU in recent days. Its a shame they seem to have made more out of the change in the R Rate than was necessary. That’s journalists I suppose.
 
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Churchlawtonblue said:
That is true, but they also provide out of date hospital data, which i believe Healdplace has pointed out several times. And there is nowhere near the anlaysis of data on any of our main news channels as there is on here. Simole things like weekly falls in hospital numbers and deaths are hardly ever reported. The differences in test results from different types of tests like Shemnel just posted is clearly interesting and throws up questions. But things like this never get reported.
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There's no space for that sort of analysis on the BBC with priority given to their in-depth coverage of important stuff like fluffy dramas, reality shows and minority sport, is there.

And yes, the rest of the media are just as bad. I'm no fan of Glastonbury Festival but the Glasto forum on efestivals is very balanced.
 
Well, Monday brings us outdoor sport and socialising in gardens again (which presumably means there's actually more socialising indoors going on).

Potential cases will begin to trickle through a week today and any signal from this relaxing of rules might be seen in about a fortnight. All fingers crossed.
 
HOSPITAL DATA


Headline:

UK patients fall into the mid 4000s with bigger drops outside England for once - as England fell only a little today. Though the rise in the South East looks to have been due to over reporting of the fall yesterday. So it may haven fallen both days. Yorkshire though is still up a bit. UK ventilators drop to just over 600 - down over 3400 in 9 weeks. And England now under 600. Numbers have hit a bit of stall but the lower you go the harder it is to go further.

UK total:


Patients 4485 - it was 39, 248 at the peak on 18 Jan - (fall of 34, 763 in 67 days) :- lowest since 10 October

Ventilators 617 it was 4077 at the peak on 24 Jan - (fall of 3460 in 61 days) : lowest since 17 October


England only:-

ADMISSIONS:-

277 Covid admissions (24 March) - following 295, 294, 279, 287, 283, 351, 343 in the week before.


PATIENTS:-

Patients down 51 in day to 3712 v 4841 last week :- lowest since 11 October.

Peak was 34, 336 on 18 Jan (fall 30, 624 in 67 days)

Ventilators: Down in day 7 to 559 v 749 last week :- lowest since 21 October

Peak was 3736 on 24 Jan (fall 3177 in 61 days)





Regions:



Patient // Ventilators // change in past 24 hours and v last week


East down 39 to 306 v 449 // down 4 to 54 v 74

London down 12 to 799 v 986 // down 10 to 159 v 237

Midlands down 8 to 765 v 1052 // stays at 126 v 169

NE & Yorks UP 9 to 625 v 776 // UP 4 to 88 v 94

North West down 15 to 678 v 819 // down 3 to 79 v 90

South East UP 27 to 404 v 579 // UP 9 to 33 v 60 * This seems to adjust an over report in falls yesterday

South West down 13 to 135 v 180 // down 3 to 20 v 25
 
GM Weekly Pop Scores after today:~

Borough / Score Today / Score 7 days ago / up or down wk to wk/ Testing is % of local population who have tested positive for Covid over past year.

As ever with Pop scores going up is bad, going down good - the higher the number the better or worse depending on direction moving. The Pop Score is total cases in past week versus 100,000 POPulation to even out the comparison versus size and expected cases based on numbers living there.

NB:- Every borough is up big week to week today due to the data glitch that under reported all of GM last Friday. This is catch up day on the week to week numbers. Things should be back on a normal track from tomorrow but really every borough was artificially low for the past few days. Hence the course correction.



Tameside 125 / 104 / UP 21 Testing positive 7.9%

Oldham 120 / 91 UP 29 Testing positive 9.5%

Bolton 117 / 90/ UP 27 Testing positive 8.8%

Rochdale 115 / 93 / UP 22 Testing positive 9.3%

Wigan 105 / 91 / UP 14 Testing positive 8.7%

Manchester 101 / 83 / UP 18 Testing positive 9.4%

Bury 92 / 74 UP 18 Testing positive 8.9%

Salford 91 / 107/ down 16 Testing positive 8.8%

Stockport 86 / 75 / UP 11 Testing positive 7.0%

Trafford 60 / 33 / UP 27 Testing positive 6.8%


As you see only Salford came out of the week better off as its numbers only started falling in the past few days. Everywhere else is up week to week from Stockport at 11 to Oldham at 29. Even Trafford up a big 27

But hopefully this will all self correct over coming days. Though everyone but Salford starts that readjustment from a higher base.


Weekly cases: Trafford - best in GM at 141.

Others Bolton 337, Bury 176, Manchester 560, Oldham 294, Rochdale 257, Salford 235, Stockport 250, Tameside 274, Wigan 346
 
unicorn said:
There's no space for that sort of analysis on the BBC with priority given to their in-depth coverage of important stuff like fluffy dramas, reality shows and minority sport, is there.

And yes, the rest of the media are just as bad. I'm no fan of Glastonbury Festival but the Glasto forum on efestivals is very balanced.
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Do you use Efests? I have been a member on there for years and spend my time arguing with plastics on the football thread constantly.
 
everythingchangesbutblue said:
Just had my antibody results in 6 wks after 1st dose and it said no presence of antibodies detected. I'm immune suppressed so it wasn't guaranteed. It's absolute shattered me tbh. I've been stuck in the flat for 13 month because of this pandemic and another year before that because of an allergic reaction to a prescribed tablet. I've only been to hospitals in all that time. I live with someone who is also clinically extremely vulnerable so i can't just say fuck it in case i bring it back to her. I'm completely down atm, i'd put all my hopes into the vaccine. I can't do another year.
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Im in the same boat, immuno suppressed but i havent had an antibody test yet. Work is going on re alternative treatment for ppl like us, so chin up. If we get 80% vaccinated our risk is much less. Good luck to you.
 
Our government have been slated for having such a high death rate. But with a 3rd wave seemingly unstoppable on the continent could our rates end up being relatively low compared to the rest of europe ?
 
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