Coronavirus (2021) thread

[blue b4 the moon]

Ha ha, yes I know exactly who you are, I complimented you on your cap last time I saw you, about 3/4 pm tee off around early September. I'll make myself known to you this year when we resume our golf, cheers.

Ha yeah I remember that....think it was the day some dick was moaning about tee times when the club had fucked up.

See you around.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Pfizer in discussions with Iceland to vaccinate the majority of the population straight away so that the country can be used as a petri dish of sorts to assess herd immunity levels Pfizer considers Iceland herd immunity plan | RÚV (ruv.is)

Under their proposal, Iceland would provide Phase-four research into the effectiveness of the vaccination by inoculating a large proportion of the population in a short period of time in order to monitor how quickly herd immunity forms. A small island nation is considered a good location for such research.

This would be invaluable data on the kind of numbers we need to reach to get to herd immunity and they have an intended 92% take up of the vaccine which helps a lot.

 

[abu13]

Back in work today and I can sense the concern in the building, people are a lot more fearful today than they were prior to Xmas.

I am really concerned about what the numbers are going to be like mid week when things start to get realigned.

 

[hammocity]

Ha yeah I remember that....think it was the day some dick was moaning about tee times when the club had fucked up.

See you around.

That's correct, he's called Darren Wilson and he's a rag!! Will have a pint at the club at the end of this shit, cheers.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Lots of "how to speed up the vaccine" posts - whilst understandable probably not really the biggest issue right now.

We *cannot* vaccinate ourselves out of the hole that has been dug.

Cases are doubling at least every fortnight and are currently close to half a million a week. Actual infections will be at least double that (we don't catch anywhere near all with testing) That will continue to grow exponentially unless we take action. So we are currently infecting more people than are being vaccinated, and the number infected will be more than we can feasibly vaccinate until the virus has run through the entire population. That's something like half a million dead. Maybe half that if vaccination is done at the fastest possible rate.

Our hospitals will be overwhelmed - the average age in ICU is just 60.

We need to lock down *now* to give vaccination any chance. A really hard shut down through January gives us a fighting chance, despite the delay and dither so far. Dependent on how well that works we may need to extend for another month, or even two.

We should have done three weeks ago when it became apparent cases were out of control in London and the new variant was the likely cause.

And, of course, manufacture and logistics are very, very unlikely to go smoothly to plan for such an unprecedented operation.

And even Jeremy Hunt agrees!

 

[Healdplace]

Sadly the England hospital data for the past 24 hours is terrible and the North West has not escaped a huge uptick.

By the time Boris gets off his backside we will be just as screwed as London at this rate.

England Patients UP 1400 in the day to 24. 957.

It never went above 18, 669 in the first wave peaking on 10 April.



Ventilators UP a gigantic 164 to 2181.

These are the worst rises yet.

We are getting scarily close to the peak in April during the first wave of 2881.

Before this new strain arrived we were way behind that number as we were ventilating fewer and fewer.

But as I mentioned in here a week or two ago since London and the South East spiked with this second wave built around the new variant their numbers on ventilators were higher as a percentage of patients in with Covid than was true in October when the NW had its peak of the second wave and had the most in hospital.

But that was on the old variant which hade yet to reach the NW.

This appears now to be if anything getting worse.

I said then one possible reason was this new strain was making people more sick and at risk of ventilation.

We are told there is no evidence for this. But these escalating ventilator numbers need watching as we were around 60% of the total when the NW peaked and we are above that now largely thanks to London and the SE who have 1081 of those 2181 on ventilators on their own.

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

It is clear that only a maximum speed vaccination programme will get us out of the Covid nightmare. You can adjust tiers, have full lock downs and so on but they can only mitigate the situation. The UK isn’t China or even South Korea so only vaccination will work. It should be round the clock at mass vaccination sites with no shutting up at 6pm or weekends.

If we get to two million shots a day and we have the supplies then we should be looking at all means necessary to increase the numbers week by week. Setting a target and then not resetting it once met isn’t good enough.

 

[give it to gordon]

We are a small team of 6 and have been doing alot of work supporting the local foodbanks. Now in tier 4 we were chatting amongst ourselves saying that now in t4 why dont we split into two teams and work one day on one day off ( I say of but on stand by ).
That way should covid19 get into our work we still have a team of 3 to carry on instead of losing the whole team for 10 days.

Not sure if it would work and our managers in their nice warm homes haven't got back to us about our idea yet.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

is clear that only a maximum speed vaccination programme will get us out of the Covid nightmare

As I posted above, the spread of the new variant will easily outrun any feasible vaccination programme. It's the inexorable mathematics of exponential growth.

The only way out is to suppress with the strictest possible social distancing whilst vaccinating. There is no alternative.

 

[kaz7]

Found out from two drs on this morning that the vaccine gives you 100% protection against being hospitalised and death , where are the media in this