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Couldn't say one way or the other but my son had every one of the main symptoms including loss of smell and taste over new year last year. So wouldn't be surprised that it was around then and he 'd had it.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
My thoughts are that perhaps something was here but then it morphed like the new variants are doing now.
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It was spread in Europe mainly via skiers who were on the slopes early in the New Year. If the virus had existed and mutating for months by this time last year we would know.

If the original version existed and was less deadly why was it not happening like that in China where we know it existed in late Autumn 2019. That would have been the strain exported as all these mutations come when it is well established. The first strain was highly infectious by standards of these things Why it spread globally so fast,

It is natural people will try to retrofit one of the many winter viruses into being Covid. Human nature to do so, But if Covid existed months before the outbreak we know happened it would not be top secret. It would have been obvious.
 
Healdplace said:
It was spread in Europe mainly via skiers who were on the slopes early in the New Year. If the virus had existed and mutating for months by this time last year we would know.

If the original version existed and was less deadly why was it not happening like that in China where we know it existed in late Autumn 2019. That would have been the strain exported as all these mutations come when it is well established.
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I do agree with you but as others have said something was knocking about earlier, from my own experience on Chinese New Year we had drinks around the Chinese area after the game meeting my wife there.

She's was rough as hell from just after then through and past the Villa game at Wembley, she was going to spend time with my son & partner in Oxfordshire while we went to the game but was too poorly to travel.

Had she have had the same symptoms after going to Wembley I'd be convinced she'd have caught it in London.
 
Indaparkside said:
I’ve never known as many blues who were i’ll after coming back from bergamo/ Milan in November 2019 can’t be a coincidence
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blueparrot said:
Couldn't say one way or the other but my son had every one of the main symptoms including loss of smell and taste over new year last year. So wouldn't be surprised that it was around then and he 'd had it.
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I think there were some other winter nasties doing the rounds in late 2019 and early 2020. I've said on here before I thought I had covid wrongly diagnosed as pneumonia in the last week of Jan 20, but having now had covid this Jan I realise they were quite different.
 
Another death in the family from covid, this time my Mother’s cousin.
 
England hospital deaths only slightly down week to week but up significantly again in the NW split.

681 - with 88 from NW versus 710 with 70 last week.

So at 13% which it has been for a few days. Up but not a lot on the 10/11 it was up to past few days. And you would expect deaths to be falling more in the areas where they had the most cases before numbers started falling.

So still looks as if we have passed the peak but that the NW is the slowest to come out of that peak. As supported by the case data and hospital patient numbers in past week.

Frustrating though seeing this and knowing as of today that one third of the the vaccine supply is being diverted FROM the NW to the areas where deaths and hospitalisations are dropping faster.
 
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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Absolutely, I don't see why some seem to think they should be vaccinated before essential things like premier league football. Teachers and now police apparently would happily see themselves vaccinated first while our brave elite level footballers risk their lives just to bring a little cheer to our homes.
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Who said they should be vaccinated first?
 
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