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I am.
My young children are.
My lad at uni is
My mrs is a teacher and doing 12 hours a day at home (when not in sch) as its so much more difficult not doing normal teaching, shes struggling.

i know we have this battle on our hands and im in no way belittling that but personally speaking i need the “road map to recovery” spelling out. I need to know that if we do ‘this’, ‘this’ will happen

im not buying into ‘everyday is a step closer’ when no body actually knows when that day is!! It just doesnt seem to be getting closer
Yes I totally get it and understand.
I had a mental breakdown last year through all of this and thought a lot about whether I wanted to carry on, that was last summer. It's now a year into all this.
I'm a lot better and run every day, I had a relationship with a lovely woman that last a few months but we finished 2 weeks ago as we both couldn't cope with the isolation and lack of things to do, it broke us.
I live on my own and trying to deal with this is impossible now after a year.
The government are drunk on power and are making decisions without legislation or debate.
They have lost all control.
 
that will help me and others cope better I suspect.
Likewise, kids getting back to school has to be a priority I'm sure a lot a lot of parents will cope better knowing the kids are back to some sort of normality.

Being able to visit loved ones and ease the restrictions on this will be a massive weight of lot's of shoulders.

In my eyes the two above are far more important than opening non essential shops etc.

I am missing mates for a beer, i reckon that will be end of may/June.
 
Yes I totally get it and understand.
I had a mental breakdown last year through all of this and thought a lot about whether I wanted to carry on, that was last summer. It's now a year into all this.
I'm a lot better and run every day, I had a relationship with a lovely woman that last a few months but we finished 2 weeks ago as we both couldn't cope with the isolation and lack of things to do, it broke us.
I live on my own and trying to deal with this is impossible now after a year.
The government are drunk on power and are making decisions without legislation or debate.
They have lost all control.
People who desire power will use power totally.
Im sorry to hear about your struggles. I came off anti depressants a week before lock down last year, not great timing but i was ok! As i was through most of the year. Turn of this year though and ive dipped. With the news of vaccines in dec i was so full of hope and although the amount or vaccinations is totally amazing, the unknown of when any sort of normality will come back is killing me.
its as tho the gov enjoy that hold over us.

as i say, if i was told that it wont be, say October (!!!) til pubs, cafes, restaurants, gyms etc open, it is so far away but if itbwas 100% i could get my head round it and work towards it.

but we are literally no nearer knowing when any sort of reopening is going to happen

sorry i ended up waffling
 
Yes I totally get it and understand.
I had a mental breakdown last year through all of this and thought a lot about whether I wanted to carry on, that was last summer. It's now a year into all this.
I'm a lot better and run every day, I had a relationship with a lovely woman that last a few months but we finished 2 weeks ago as we both couldn't cope with the isolation and lack of things to do, it broke us.
I live on my own and trying to deal with this is impossible now after a year.
The government are drunk on power and are making decisions without legislation or debate.
They have lost all control.

You're not on your own mate. I live alone and generally I'm fine with that but usually if I want company I can pop in the pub, go and see family and friends, book a holiday and get a change of scene. People say their partners do their head in during lockdown but try being on your own, it is tough.

All this fucking about just gives weight to the people who say it's never been about a virus but all about destroying the old way of life and total control. As soon as good weather comes so will rebellion if all the vulnerable are vaccinated and numbers dropped and they're still saying two more months, be patient. Nobody will listen.
 
A lot of people really struggling. Are they still taking about a road map out on the 15th?
I thought it was when they will start to discuss the road map out and we would find out a week later. Hence the possibility of schools slowly opening 2 weeks after that (8th march)

id put all the money i possess (£7.44) on us knowing very little on this supposed big reveal of The Road Map Out Of Lockdown
 
People who desire power will use power totally.
Im sorry to hear about your struggles. I came off anti depressants a week before lock down last year, not great timing but i was ok! As i was through most of the year. Turn of this year though and ive dipped. With the news of vaccines in dec i was so full of hope and although the amount or vaccinations is totally amazing, the unknown of when any sort of normality will come back is killing me.
its as tho the gov enjoy that hold over us.

as i say, if i was told that it wont be, say October (!!!) til pubs, cafes, restaurants, gyms etc open, it is so far away but if itbwas 100% i could get my head round it and work towards it.

but we are literally no nearer knowing when any sort of reopening is going to happen

sorry i ended up waffling
Yes this is my gripe with what's happening
People are being jabbed why can we not have some normality back, even little bit?
They are drunk on power.
 
No more than £100 a night, if it’s a £35 room!
I think the base room cost is negated as they iirc are decided on overhead and %occupancy.

The hotel has far more greater costs to enable them to accommodate and isolate members of the public. As I pointed out this morning, the boss has said that insurance is a huge uplift on him.

They also have to provide (on top of normal facilities), 3 meals per day, 24/7 security in sufficient numbers wrt numbers of guests. I don't know for sure, but would suspect staff will be looking for bonuses or enhanced rates due to the risks. Cleaning will have to be more regular and thorough too, so all in all, it is not difficult to see why costs are high.
 
To all those who are struggling, just have a bit of faith for a few more weeks. Whilst the gov are crap at communication, they cannot sanction loosening of restrictions whilst the case numbers are so high. Yes, they are heading in the right direction, but they are not low enough yet.

It doesn’t help when the media ask dumb questions that neither the politicians nor scientists are in a position to answer yet. The vaccines are the way out of this, but they need 1. To get through the people at risk and 2. Data from the vaccinations themselves.

Change is coming, just watch those daily case numbers and hospitalisation numbers and then you won’t need an answer from Boris - you’ll be able to work out when restrictions will be lifted. And the good news is that both these figures are coming down nicely.
 
Yes this is my gripe with what's happening
People are being jabbed why can we not have some normality back, even little bit?
They are drunk on power.
I dont desire much, im a simple man really. But this not knowing is pissing me off and i do really think that people in power enjoy the hold over the big secret that they know but we dont
 
To all those who are struggling, just have a bit of faith for a few more weeks. Whilst the gov are crap at communication, they cannot sanction loosening of restrictions whilst the case numbers are so high. Yes, they are heading in the right direction, but they are not low enough yet.

It doesn’t help when the media ask dumb questions that neither the politicians nor scientists are in a position to answer yet. The vaccines are the way out of this, but they need 1. To get through the people at risk and 2. Data from the vaccinations themselves.

Change is coming, just watch those daily case numbers and hospitalisation numbers and then you won’t need an answer from Boris - you’ll be able to work out when restrictions will be lifted. And the good news is that both these figures are coming down nicely.
Are we not grown up to be told that when the numbers get to ‘this’ we can have ‘that’? Treating us like kids im afraid.

yes there have been plenty of dickish behaviour by the public but its a tiny minority and the vast majority have been good little girls and boys
 
To all those who are struggling, just have a bit of faith for a few more weeks. Whilst the gov are crap at communication, they cannot sanction loosening of restrictions whilst the case numbers are so high. Yes, they are heading in the right direction, but they are not low enough yet.

It doesn’t help when the media ask dumb questions that neither the politicians nor scientists are in a position to answer yet. The vaccines are the way out of this, but they need 1. To get through the people at risk and 2. Data from the vaccinations themselves.

Change is coming, just watch those daily case numbers and hospitalisation numbers and then you won’t need an answer from Boris - you’ll be able to work out when restrictions will be lifted. And the good news is that both these figures are coming down nicely.
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To all those who are struggling, just have a bit of faith for a few more weeks. Whilst the gov are crap at communication, they cannot sanction loosening of restrictions whilst the case numbers are so high. Yes, they are heading in the right direction, but they are not low enough yet.

It doesn’t help when the media ask dumb questions that neither the politicians nor scientists are in a position to answer yet. The vaccines are the way out of this, but they need 1. To get through the people at risk and 2. Data from the vaccinations themselves.

Change is coming, just watch those daily case numbers and hospitalisation numbers and then you won’t need an answer from Boris - you’ll be able to work out when restrictions will be lifted. And the good news is that both these figures are coming down nicely.
I disagree a little. The data looks good but underneath it there are variants emerging which maybe difficult to wipe out. May. I think it's the uncertainty that's difficult to deal with. It really isn't clear how big a threat the variants are as we don't know whether the vaccines will hold their replication in check.

If we can beat down the original virus then the source pool for new variants will be gone and we can focus all the testing and tracing on keeping down the new variants. Then when its clear what we are facing we vaccinate again. We should get very high vaccination rates now because vaccination will be seen as the only way to protect yourself. You can't hind behind other people now. Once the majority get vaccinated, and providing it doesn't mutate significantly further then we should be OK to relax a lot of restrictions. That's what I am hoping for.
 
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