Don’t think they can win, mate. If they’re answered in something that isn’t under their jurisdiction and they don’t answer, they get hammered for refusing to comment.
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BlueHammer85
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I can't think of anything worse than trying to book a holiday, packed airports, packed planes, packed beaches, tourists overload everywhere. not for me at all at the moment, will wait until it all calms down, however long.
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why force them into a decision like that when they do not know, it's a ongoing/ever changing situation and can only advise best case scenarios at the moment.
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It doesn’t mean everyone has to agree with a video 100%. Everyone has the option to stay at home but I can’t see that happening if we drive down the cases to the 100s, rather than the thousands.
Simply because with the vaccinations, the situation in the UK will likely be better than most of the world, shutting up shot will guard against any new potential mutations.
People don’t need to travel, it’s a luxury and I’d sooner get our society back to normal than allow holidays.
And this is me who could completely lose £300 on a stag do to Albufeira, that’s been paid. I don’t care, I want our society back to resembling something like it used to.
Now ain’t that graph a sight.
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Agree, but it would be silly for them to say 'we are locked in for rest of the year, no holidays' when that might not be the case in 4/5 months.
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Some people do. My eldest daughter was supposed to go to Madrid for her year abroad last September. She's had to take a year out of uni and hopes to go this September. Putting it off again is not really an option. This is a Spanish course by the way, not just a year abroad for the fun of it.
To balance all the "shut up shop" messages, there was some expert commenting the other day that you can't stop infections entering a country no matter how hard you try. The government will spend millions with these quarantine hotels and you can bet a lot of money that a couple of new strains will sneak in via a transport link or some other way.
Social distancing, mask wearing and being sensible + vaccinations is the way forward from May/June onwards - not stopping people travelling to and from an area with a similar level of infections.
The holiday situation started by Hancock coming on TV saying he thought things should be as good as back to normal by the summer. Then mixed messages started coming out, all different to whatever minister was being interviewed. You'd think that they'd all meet up and agree to one thing to say before they were rolled out for their interviews.
As for holidays in this country you'll be lucky to find anywhere with any vacancies for this year and if you do they are extortionate. All those wealthy people that jet off to Barbados and Antigua will pay whatever it takes for a lodge in Bognor Regis this year, so pricing their regular clientele out.
My sister, her husband and my parents usually book a lodge for a few days over Christmas. She has checked this year out of curiosity and almost everywhere is booked up. Anywhere that isn't is at least double the price they were quoting for last year.
I managed to get away to Tenerife for five weeks in July/August last year. Although lots of places were closed I could listen to live music every night, have a few beers and get some sun, catch up with friends who live out there. It wasn't quite the same as normal but by God I'm glad I went out now.
As for holidays in this country you'll be lucky to find anywhere with any vacancies for this year and if you do they are extortionate. All those wealthy people that jet off to Barbados and Antigua will pay whatever it takes for a lodge in Bognor Regis this year, so pricing their regular clientele out.
My sister, her husband and my parents usually book a lodge for a few days over Christmas. She has checked this year out of curiosity and almost everywhere is booked up. Anywhere that isn't is at least double the price they were quoting for last year.
I managed to get away to Tenerife for five weeks in July/August last year. Although lots of places were closed I could listen to live music every night, have a few beers and get some sun, catch up with friends who live out there. It wasn't quite the same as normal but by God I'm glad I went out now.
It seemed to work for smaller countries.
You may not stop it entirely but the odd case coming in via transport is different to dozens and dozens getting off flights from an area with significant variants.
I hope your daughter does get to do what she wants to do, I just think getting our society back to normal is the crucial thing here.
"Shutting up shop" will not guard against any new potential mutations. The virus mutates as it copies itself. One viable mutation is seen in the SA style variation so this will happen independently all over the globe. We can't stop evolution. We can slow it down. And we can slow down the spread of the mutations from areas where they are common.
lancs blue
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For decades travel and holidays have been part of a "normal" society for most people in this country. What you posted would have been true in the 50s when travel was relatively expensive but not from the 70s/80s onwards.
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Yes, but the worst part was all this was also about booking a holiday in the UK too!
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That's the point, they can't. If they know for sure what the situation would be in 3 months time I'm sure they would, but we don't, so they can't. I've booked to go away in the UK in July, paid a small deposit and if it can't happen due to restrictions then we will just move it to an alternative date. It's not a big deal in the scheme of things.
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I agree with your post. But the continued distancing and mask wearing from that time onwards will still cause their own problems domestically, in terms of people's businesses. Entertainment, food and drink, sporting events, music etc. It didn't seem so long ago we were talking about potentially (or more hopefully) getting back to the football in April, I think the recent downturn in mood in this thread and in the community has arisen from the thought of this year not quite being a write off but now another tough one. People looking forward to spending time with friends/family without having to worry about being indoors or outdoors or being with 2 households or 5 households etc. I agree with the need for restrictions and absolutely understand them, but it doesn't make it any easier on general wellbeing.
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The bit about being lucky to find anywhere in the UK this year that isn't extortionate is a myth. We booked 7 nights in Cornwall last week for £600 and there were load of options available.
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Finally a sensible comment on the travel and holiday situation.
Shapps really is a massive **** saying it's illegal to book a holiday. No it isn't.
The travel industry is on it's knees anyway, an industry that employs hundreds of thousands of people directly and indirectly. We're getting no sector specific help from the government, and all the mixed messages they are giving out just compound things.
No-one is going anywhere for a few months, domestically or internationally. Which is a good thing whilst the vaccine rollout continues at pace.
But I do think/hope that by summer there will be the scope for some travel to selected destinations in Europe, in a similar fashion to last summer/autumn. Whether that might involve testing, proof of vaccination etc I'm really not sure but I'd be surprised if 2021 is written off for all international travel.
If people wanna holiday at home then fill your boots, but why some feel the need to act all superior about it is beyond me.
I also think people sometimes downplay the importance of holidays and travel.
Is it essential? Course it isn't, just like going to a gig, watching City live, going to the cinema or theatre, going out for food and drink etc also isn't.
If it's 'acceptable' to pine the return of live football, then it's perfectly acceptable to pine the return of holidays and international travel.
And anyone worried about packed beaches in Europe this year.....lol, you seen Bournemouth beach on a sunny bank holiday weekend? If domestic holidays are permitted this summer then that's what it's gonna be like daily for 3/4 months.
I'll have this instead please (if it's allowed, of course) Majorca, mid July 2020. Lovely stuff.
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There's some picky sods on this Forum.
Took me 2 minutes to find 5 nights for £133.95. Bang in centre of town. Roker beach, cheap bars and cinemas, museums and gardens. I stayed there when we used to lose at Stadium of Light each year. Try it.
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