Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BlueAnorak]

On the subject of Vit D . I get my vitamins from Natures Health and the strongest one they do and I take is Vit D Super strength 1000iu . So is there a stronger one out there or are you take 4 of these ?

I buy Max strength at 4000 IU.

 

[splinter]

I’ve got these, currently unavailable though...

Amazon product ASIN B072L235Z5

ive had those and great value

 

[Tim of the Oak]

ive had those and great value

They seem to be out of stock atm so I’ve gone for a couple of boxes of the 3,000 strength Vitamin Ders

 

[splinter]

On the subject of Vit D . I get my vitamins from Natures Health and the strongest one they do and I take is Vit D Super strength 1000iu . So is there a stronger one out there or are you take 4 of these ?

i buy mine from the usa 5000iu got a great deal on 18 months supply a 1000iu will not get your vit d blood levels to where they should be

 

[Marvin]

There’s going to be constant new variants popping up all over the world , can’t be worrying about each one unless it really goes out of control and makes the vaccine redundant. Until then , ignore the scary headlines.

If you're interested in Sars-Cov-2 you should be interested in how it's evolving. I use the news headlines to find out what's happening in the world good or bad, and ignoring what you don't like is very bad advice.

 

[twosips]

If you're interested in Sars-Cov-2 you should be interested in how it's evolving. I use the news headlines to find out what's happening in the world good or bad, and ignoring what you don't like is very bad advice.

i think its more a case of ignoring anything until we know it's bad, otherwise we'd all be going insane. Daily scary updates, when 90%+ of it wasn't worth worrying about in the first place.

 

[Vic]

Recent study showed AZ vaccine cut transmission by about 2/3

Single dose of AstraZeneca vaccine could cut transmission by 67%

One jab could also offer protection of up to 76% for up to 12 weeks, a new study shows

www.theguardian.com

So a quarter of the people who've had the first dose have still caught Covid? How do they actually measure transmission?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

So a quarter of the people who've had the first dose have still caught Covid? How do they actually measure transmission?

Where does it say that or have you just made it up?

 

[hammocity]

Seems like the figures are coming down steadily.
I dont agree with the proposed vaccine passports however, they would be unethical and discriminatory in my opinion..
People should have the right to say no to the vaccine and not be persecuted. But it looks like they will be shut out of society and I dont think that's right.

It would also be right for the owner of a pub to stop someone entering their premises without proof of the vaccine in order to safeguard their law abiding customers. You may say that's discriminatory towards those that can't have the jab on medical grounds, I'd say that's tough on those people but unfortunately it's collateral damage to keep most others safe.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

It would also be right for the owner of a pub to stop someone entering their premises without proof of the vaccine in order to safeguard their law abiding customers. You may say that's discriminatory towards those that can't have the jab on medical grounds, I'd say that's tough on those people but unfortunately it's collateral damage to keep most others safe.

Agree totally but law abiding? It's not a legal requirement to be vaccinated or am I reading your post wrongly and have missed a point?

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

It would also be right for the owner of a pub to stop someone entering their premises without proof of the vaccine in order to safeguard their law abiding customers. You may say that's discriminatory towards those that can't have the jab on medical grounds, I'd say that's tough on those people but unfortunately it's collateral damage to keep most others safe.

so you're prepared to ostracise people from society because they're unable to have a vaccine?

Should we put them in camps so they're all in one place and out of the way?

 

[Invisible Man's Bandage]

so you're prepared to ostracise people from society because they're unable to have a vaccine?

Should we put them in camps so they're all in one place and out of the way?

There will be an relatively small number of people who cannot be vaccinated for health reasons and I'm sure there will be an equivalent 'passport' for them proving this to be the case. However, there will be much larger numbers choosing not to be vaccinated, such as my wife's friend (a community nurse) who has refused so far as it has been tested on animals (she has become a fanatical vegan).

This group of people can all fuck off as far as I'm concerned and if they can't do certain things then tough fucking shit.

 

[Marvin]

i think its more a case of ignoring anything until we know it's bad, otherwise we'd all be going insane. Daily scary updates, when 90%+ of it wasn't worth worrying about in the first place.

One of the criteria for continuing to lift the lockdown is that the risk from variants does not change. This news reports that 12% of a New York medical facility has this strain. And that strain carries a mutation that has functional significance hence Moderna developed a vaccine that is going into a clinical trial. They don't do that for nothing.

 

[worsleyweb]

You have taken the title of Resident Misery Guts

Marvin loves a variant

 

[Del_Bosque]

So a quarter of the people who've had the first dose have still caught Covid? How do they actually measure transmission?

Scheduled PCR testing people who have had the vaccine and haven’t as part of a survey to catch asymptomatic transmission

i’m part of the ONS survey, get a blood and saliva test once a month on a home visit

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

You can be refused entry to a pub/club for loads of different reasons from clothes to just your face not fitting. Potentially carrying a deadly virus seems like a decent reason for refusal to me.

Said it for awhile now that passports/certificates will come into play. They will be the carrot to get high uptake of the vaccine in the younger less vulnerable demographics imo.

 

[ganganvince]

Where does it say that or have you just made it up?

It doesn't. It says it offers 76% protection meaning of the small percentage you would have expected to catch Covid only 24% of those actually did not 24% of the total group.

 

[hammocity]

Agree totally but law abiding? It's not a legal requirement to be vaccinated or am I reading your post wrongly and have missed a point?

Yep, slip there, should have put "socially responsible".

 

[worsleyweb]

Beautiful day and we are beating this bastad thing. Going to be a great summer.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

One of the criteria for continuing to lift the lockdown is that the risk from variants does not change. This news reports that 12% of a New York medical facility has this strain. And that strain carries a mutation that has functional significance hence Moderna developed a vaccine that is going into a clinical trial. They don't do that for nothing.

At this stage, it is more important for vaccinemakers to keep on top of potentially dangerous variants - the SA and UK variants were significant enough to have vaccines tinkered with. If it doesn't get used immediately, they still have the trial information, and will learn about how variants interact with the vaccines.

The costs for Moderna setting up a trial are relatively low on the grand scale of this project.

I do think that there is a lot of rushing out of studies without proper peer review; that is scientifically poor practice and feeds misinformation into the public domain. I also think that they are not worth worrying about until there is review/more official announcement.