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Do we know the differences between Israel's opening and ours in terms of % population vaccinated by each stage?
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I've read that they opened up relatively later, but I'm not at all sure and it's probably very hard to quantify in any meaningful way.
 
RobMCFC said:
No surprise figures are going up.

Indoor hospitality opening before everybody has been offered a first jab was a mistake. Many people out and about will have had 1 or 0 jabs, so you would expect rising cases.

But as many people have said, it’s not about the cases, it’s about hospital figures.
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Why is it a mistake?
It is only a mistake if new cases translate into hospitalisations and hospitalisations into deaths. So far there is a minimal rise in hospitalisations (a few single vaccinated but no double vaccinated) and no rise in deaths for those vaccinated.
 
All in all its looking good.
Isolation of those testing positive is essential to slow it all down. Sadly home isolation of those testing positive doesn't work well as folks break the rules. There should have been a quarantine app or tagging that if not accepted would have led to internment (see Taiwan, South Korea) but apparently the right to life is trumped by the right to be a fecking idiot
 
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Had chance to cat5ch up on the data in Scotland and N Ireland.

Scotland cases not up much week to week 464 today v 432 last week 1.8% positivity v 1.6%

0 deaths both weeks.

Patients in hospital very good news DOWN 15 on yesterday to 83 - the same as last week. GIven all the cases in Scotland that is good support that cases are not translating into long stay very sick patients in hospital.

Moreover there are now only 4 on ventilators -down from 6 yesterday.




Northern Ireland also good

84 cases today v 90 last week. 3,8% positivity v 3.7% last week.

0 deaths both weeks too.

Patients in hospital also good news. Down 1 to 27 (it was 37 last week)

And Ventilators still on just 1.


So two nations - one with lots of India variant the other not. One high cases, The othee low.

Bot tracking very low indeed in hospital data.

If England emulates this we will be OK.
 
Good news from German Scientists on AZ and J&J clotting.
www.ft.com

Scientists claim to have solved Covid vaccine blood-clot puzzle

German researchers say side effect is caused by adenovirus vector and can be fixed
www.ft.com www.ft.com
Just need to solve the myocardial infractions caused by mRNA vaccines that are just as dangerous as the AZ/JJ clots.
I know its a 1/500,000 chance of death thing but DO NOT EXERCISE AFTER a Pfizer/Moderna mRNA vaccine jab for two weeks!
 
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Wales hospital data today is also really good. 19 patients and 3 ventilated. Down from 41 patients and 3 ventilated last week.


Tot those up - across the 3 nations without England in the UK and we have just 129 in hospital and 8 on ventilator.

Those numbers are both down week to week.

No sign there of rising cases creating hospitalisation
 
England hospital data is OK today too.

88 admissions - actually down from 90 last week.

24 of those are from the NW - up on last weeks 19 but down on 31 yesterday.

England patients are down too - by 3 - to 742. That is down 7 on last week. It fell by 8 last Thursday.

The reason it did not fall more is, unsurprisingly, the North West. which is up 7 to 173 - 18 up week to week.

Midlands rose by 6 day to day too to 141 - which is up 4 week to week.

Pretty much everywhere else is still edging down. Even Yorkshire which was ahead of the NW a couple of weeks ago has carried on falling and now had just 92 in hospital - half of the NW.


As for ventilators these are down too - to 110 - which week to week is down 5.

North West fared better here - down 2 to 21 - now just up 1 on last week.

So the hospital data as of today shows NW as the problem which you would expect.

What it still is not doing though is escalating upwards mirroring cases.

As of yet this is a case pandemic not a hospital one in other than a small way.

Pretty obviously the vaccine is the reason for the difference.
 
As anyone who knows me from the past year on here will hopefully concur I do not do panic or elation. I just post the numbers and comment whether they are good or bad. Even when they are both. As they can be due to the cases v hospitalisation very different dynamics caused by the intervention of the vaccines.

I did both today largely as that is what the data is doing but the balance of both - which only comes late in the day when we get all the hospital numbers - is good not bad today.

Concern is reasonable and proper in the current rising numbers. Panic not as it could still tip either way. But at the moment the position is balanced enough not to scream out either case.

If Bolton keeps on falling it is likely so will other regions in GM that got the variant later on with measures already in place. Belatedly as that was. It gives them a start to head off the variant from getting too far ahead of itself
 
BlueAnorak said:
Good news from German Scientists on AZ and J&J clotting.
www.ft.com

Scientists claim to have solved Covid vaccine blood-clot puzzle

German researchers say side effect is caused by adenovirus vector and can be fixed
www.ft.com www.ft.com
Just need to solve the myocardial infractions caused by mRNA vaccines that are just as dangerous as the AZ/JJ clots.
I know its a 1/500,000 chance of death thing but DO NOT EXERCISE AFTER a Pfizer/Moderna mRNA vaccine jab for two weeks!
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Ah good. Glad you told me that now. Two months after I worked out most days following both Pfizer jabs.
 
I know Rossendale well as I have family there. Though not been back in a while. It is caught in a pincer movement between Burnley/Blackburn and Oldham/Rochdale. In past waves it spiked high for its size too when cases took off in those locations and spread because people from the valley go there for shopping and hospital visits I guess. .
 
ZOE APP

2899 cases predicted - up 350 - it got the large rise correct. Though under estimated.

Symptomatic cases top 40K - 44, 714 - up by nearly 3000 from 41, 800. Biggest daily rise in months.


NORTH WEST NUMBERS



(Predicted active cases / Estimated cases per million population locally / Both V yesterday)


TAMESIDE 2032 / 9079 V 1963 / 8744

UP AND STILL THE WORST IN THE UK ON ZOE.

Tameside cases rose from 11 to 20 in real life. HIghest in some time here. So Zoe saw this several days ahead. Hopefully it does NOT go up that far.
 
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