Coronavirus (2021) thread

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You do realise I hope, that it is in people not vaccinated that new variants evolve? Are you vaccinated against anything? If you have had all the jabs most people have, why are you so scared of this one? One of the consequences you and other Antivaxxers might face, is no one will want you anywhere near us. I am not being hysterical here, but you will prove to be a risk to the wider community and if vaccinated ID is introduced, you're fucked. The vaccine is safe, but you won't be to everyone else. That's just a medical fact and whilst no one can make you have it, the bottom line is, sanctions will be introduced eventually to make people who refuse, to not he alowed to enter places, fly anywhere.

My pals wife caught the virus, now has pulmonary scarring and I just read it's incurable and could kill her within three years if it's severe. Is that worth the risk when vaccines have saved billions of lives? You really should talk to a doctor. Anxiety over taking it is normal for some. But remember, you've been vaccinated and you're still here. This virus is going nowhere, new variants will develop in people like you all the time. The vaccines are effective so far in the new ones, that might not aways be the case and the more Petri Dish people there are walking about, the higher the chances one of them will kill you. Talk to a doctor and hopefully that will ease your fears.
Thoughts with your mate and his wife.

Awful. One of my worries too. I thought I was fully on the mend a few weeks ago but that run where my heart was racing, dizziness and breathlessness was a real worry.

I'm slowly getting my strength back in the gym but even there stuff I can do easily in 2019 is a real struggle now (although getting better).

I may have to look into long Covid research but at the same time not sure I could currently accept news of my heart being fucked over by this.
I take all the vits, drink matcha tea ffs but still not as fit and healthy as I was.
 
Good post.

The first link you've provided isn't a report on the safety guidelines, it's effectively the equivalent of what news aggregators do. They've simply re-written the existing guidelines and loosely quoted them. These points form the basis of a pre-clinical regulatory submission and don't really differ from what has been done with non-biologicals for years and years. To my knowledge no regulators liaise with WHO regarding regulatory decisions, though they do feed into various forums for improvement.
Thank you for the correction!

I think I posted the wrong link for that first one (I had a good dozen open in my browser).
 
Not being vaccinated is your choice, as long as you’re not spreading lies about it, people shouldn’t have a problem with your views. That is, to a point.

But have you ever considered the fact that not being vaccinated means that if you do contract what you haven’t been vaccinated against, you not only run the risk of you getting seriously ill or dying from it but also you run the risk of it mutating and when you spread it to others they have a greater chance of getting seriously ill or dying, or wider populations of people do?

This vaccine isn’t a new technology. The WHO, pharmaceutical companies and world leading universities have been testing DNA vaccines since the early 90s. In 2007 the WHO organisation released reports on the safety guidelines for DNA vaccines

In 2008 clinical trials were put forward for the safety of DNA vaccines to use in real world scenarios with humans, with reference to studies from 1993 saying “These trials [from 1993] demonstrated that the DNA vaccine platform is well tolerated and safe, as no adverse events were reported and all studies went to completion”

And they have been used in real world vaccines since 2013 (USA flu recombinant vaccines)
and in other vaccines since then.

Ignore these lies about this being a new technology, there are many many studies you can find going back three decades on this kind of vaccine science.
I thought the mRNA vaccines were relatively new?
 
Is anyone actually paying attention anymore? I know certain things aren’t open but as far as I’m concerned there are no longer any restrictions on meeting people etc and there won’t be again.

I don't no anyone isolating or caring about social distancing etc anymore
 
Don’t pay attention to rumours, just follow the science. And I don’t mean online cranks, follow the medical journals, and university peer reviewed trials. If you’re following rumours, no wonder you’re apprehensive. Online rumours are full of mistruths, misinformation, and lies, and they’re purposely put forward to make people apprehensive. It’s the shit end of free speech where the idiots spread bullshit to entice people into their web of deceit.

Don’t worry about hypotheticals, just follow the science.

It’s absolutely fine to have reservations but make sure you’re speaking to and reading information from the right people to base your decision.
Academic journals are written for academics.
 
3542 cases

10 all settings deaths.

Bit of a jump today.

!, 107, 821 Pillar 1 & 2 tests

Last week about 56 K more tests and 700 or so fewer cases
 
Infection rate is creeping up. I had hoped after a few weeks around 2.5k with odd day just below 2k that we would see more days under 2k and even some days nearer 1k or under. Possible worrying times ahead, we need to stamp out these infections and stress upon people the need to isolate.
 
Sorry I am a bit behind. Very busy on that book for which my publisher is pressing me to finish quickly the new writing to update it into the 21st century.

Taking a break to catch up posting here for an hour or so,
 
There’s loads of fucking rona round here at the moment, various schools closed or full year groups wiped out, loads of parents isolating too etc.

It just remains to be seen whether it translates to too big an increase in hospital admissions or whether it stays manageable.

I know a few people who’ve got it at the moment and other than a tickly cough for a couple of days it has barely touched the sides.

edit...when I say round here I mean Bury, Rammy, Bolton, Rossendale etc.
 
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