Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
You will not be surprised that both NW and GM had their worst days in some time.

Everywhere up some quite big.

Stockport had easily the worst day. So Zoe got that right. Up 81 week to week to 221. Highest in some time.

Manchester topped 300 for first time in a while and up 74 week to week.

Most other places just modest rises.

North West up 562 in day to 4477. Highest in 45 days.

Up 972 week to week. Biggest jump in NW for a few weeks.

GM rises up 217 of that 562 - around par but more than it has been scoring lately

And week to week up 308 of that NW rise of 972 - which is actually OK and well below expectations.

As noted most places bar Stockport and to a degree Manchester and Tameside had OK day today an up only modestly week to week which is the number that most matters.

I assume this is the start of the schools explosion.

There were only about 40K extra tests today though so positivity will be well up.
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Going to be a rough autumn and winter
 
Healdplace said:
You will not be surprised that both NW and GM had their worst days in some time.

Everywhere up some quite big.

Stockport had easily the worst day. So Zoe got that right. Up 81 week to week to 221. Highest in some time.

Manchester topped 300 for first time in a while and up 74 week to week.

Most other places just modest rises.

North West up 562 in day to 4477. Highest in 45 days.

Up 972 week to week. Biggest jump in NW for a few weeks.

GM rises up 217 of that 562 - around par but more than it has been scoring lately

And week to week up 308 of that NW rise of 972 - which is actually OK and well below expectations.

As noted most places bar Stockport and to a degree Manchester and Tameside had OK day today an up only modestly week to week which is the number that most matters.

I assume this is the start of the schools explosion.

There were only about 40K extra tests today though so positivity will be well up.
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They only went back on Wednesday
 
Looks like kids won't be getting vaccinated. The scientific experts have concluded that only high risk 12-15 year old's should get it as the health benefits are marginal. Seems like a sensible decision, doubt many parents would have been happy to vaccinate their kids anyway.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA


ADMISSIONS - THESE ARE FROM WEDNESDAY REMEMBER (48 hours old)



LAST WED // THIS WEDNESDAY

843 // 835

So down week to week but closest and highest in some days.


By regions (LAST WEDNESDAY V THIS WEDNESDAY) :-


LONDON 139 V 124

MIDLANDS 189 V 152

NE & YORKSHIRE 158 V 160



AND

NORTH WEST 113 V 116


So NW admitted the least of the four big regions again BUT up week to week. NE & Yorkshire UP week to week also but London and Midlands big drops.
 
JCVI has blocked universal vaccination to 12s-15s though it has increased the categories of vulnerable groups that should be vaccinated - a total of 200,000 extra kids who should be vaccinated.

BBC News - Covid jabs not recommended for most 12-15 year olds
www.bbc.co.uk

Scientists not backing Covid jabs for 12 to 15-year-olds

But 200,000 extra children with underlying conditions will now be eligible for two doses.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
True_Blue69 said:
Looks like kids won't be getting vaccinated. The scientific experts have concluded that only high risk 12-15 year old's should get it as the health benefits are marginal. Seems like a sensible decision, doubt many parents would have been happy to vaccinate their kids anyway.
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Looks like they’ve left it to the chief medical officers to make the decision.
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA



PATIENTS

THIS DATA IS FOR TODAY


6195 - UP 9 ON DAY FROM 6186



Last week the equivalent numbers were

5889 - DOWN 4 ON DAY FROM 5893


WEEK TO WEEK: Rise of 306 (up from rise of 293 yesterday) FROM 5893 to 6186.

Previous week Rise of 313 FROM 5576 to 5889

So pretty flat numbers as you can see







BY REGIONS

Today - Up/Down Today V Last Week - Up/down over week


LONDON 1154 - DOWN 48 V 1189 - DOWN 35

MIDLANDS 1235 - UP 9 V 1204 - UP 31

NE & YORKSHIRE 1139 - UP 3 V 1090 - UP 49


AND


NORTH WEST 975 - UP 13 V 864 - UP 111


SADLY AS YOU CAN LONDON WELL DOWN NOW BUT THE NW IS NOW UP BY THE MOST AND MAY TOP !000 PATIENTS FOR FIRST TIME IN MONTHS AY DAY NO

THE NORTH WEST HAS GONE INTO REVERSE AND HAD A FEW BAD DAYS. NEEDS CAREFUL WATCHING



The other smaller regions week to week to today

East up from 491 to 531 today (down 1 on day)

South East up from 596 to 691 today (up 34 on day)

And South West up from 455 to 470 today (down 1 on day)


These smaller regions are rising too now. South East especially.


Headline:- Numbers rising & North West starting to become a little cause for concern. .
 
ENGLAND HOSPITAL DATA



VENTILATORS


THIS DATA IS FOR TODAY

889 - DOWN 8 FROM 897 YESTERDAY


Last week the same days were:

874 - UP 2 FROM 872




UP 15 week to week today V UP 25 wk to wk yesterday

Last week the wk to wk from the previous Wednesday was UP 37.




By regions (TODAY V LAST WEEK) :-


LONDON 222 (Down 4) V 215- UP 7 in week

MIDLANDS 170 (Down 10) V 185 - DOWN 15 in week

NE & YORKSHIRE 148 (Up 6) V 139 - UP 9 in week



AND

NORTH WEST 118 (Up 3) V 116 - UP 2 in week




The other regions LAST WEEK V TODAY

East Up 4 at 75 TO 86 - UP 11 - Not good here

South East down 3 TO 80 to 86 - UP 6

And South West level at 64 to 59 - DOWN 5


These numbers fluctuate quite a bit so no immediate panic on the North West numbers.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Looks like kids won't be getting vaccinated. The scientific experts have concluded that only high risk 12-15 year old's should get it as the health benefits are marginal. Seems like a sensible decision, doubt many parents would have been happy to vaccinate their kids anyway.
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Crazy decision.

I've posted research on here before showing there's a clear risk benefit to the children themselves. JCVI have never, to date, published any quantitative rationale for their position.

It seems against all the evidence, mere hand waving.

Meanwhile, we can expect pretty much every single child to get the delta variant. And yet more disruption to education as a result. And more transmission, hospitalisation and death to vulnerable family members.

3000 u18s have been hospitalised to date.

Almost every other developed country is doing this.

We've lost the plot.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Crazy decision.

I've posted research on here before showing there's a clear risk benefit to the children themselves. JCVI have never, to date, published any quantitative rationale for their position.

It seems against all the evidence, mere hand waving.

Meanwhile, we can expect pretty much every single child to get the delta variant. And yet more disruption to education as a result. And more transmission, hospitalisation and death to vulnerable family members.

3000 u18s have been hospitalised to date.

Almost every other developed country is doing this.

We've lost the plot.
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Without turning the thread political, we've punted and got lucky with early first jabs and delayed second ones apart from that it's been a bit of a shambles.

Seems reactive eventually is as usual the way we work rather than proactive.

Let's hope we fall lucky again.
 
BlueAnorak said:
I see the EU has given up on it's legal case against AstraZenica and has orderd 200m new doses to be delivered next year in recompense. Who'd have thought they didn't have a leg to stand on?
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The EU reached a settlement with AZ for a production schedule of the vaccine up to March ‘22. Part of the reasoning behind the settlement is that the EU no longer requires AZ vaccines. AZ has been sidelined in Europe going forward.

‘The agreement will probably not have a major impact on vaccination within Europe, as the EU will end up donating many of these doses. Numerous countries have pledged to donate at least 200 million doses of vaccines through the global facility COVAX by the end of the year, many of which will be from AstraZeneca.’ @politico
 
UK PATIENTS AS OF TODAY:



ENGLAND 6195 SCOTLAND 653 NORTHERN IRELAND 409 WALES 313

UK TOTAL 7570

(UP 30 ON THE DAY)





VENTILATED UK AS OF TODAY


ENGLAND 889 SCOTLAND 60 NORTHERN IRELAND 38 WALES 48

UK TOTAL 1035


(UP 1 ON THE DAY)
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Crazy decision.

I've posted research on here before showing there's a clear risk benefit to the children themselves. JCVI have never, to date, published any quantitative rationale for their position.

It seems against all the evidence, mere hand waving.

Meanwhile, we can expect pretty much every single child to get the delta variant. And yet more disruption to education as a result. And more transmission, hospitalisation and death to vulnerable family members.

3000 u18s have been hospitalised to date.

Almost every other developed country is doing this.

We've lost the plot.
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Utterly absurd. Scared of lawsuits or just scared of making decisions. And at the same time they will plead with families to help out Afghan refugees. Who are quite likely to get vaccinations here ASAP as they, of course. absolutely should.

This decision will inevitably kill people caught in the cross fire of their younger family and they have to know it.

They will pay the price in the end but so will many others this Winter I fear as I suspect they will fudge some of the booster jabs too.

The world will wonder how the UK managed to throw away the early advantage and success we had and end up next year in a bigger mess than many major nations thanks to the bizarre way we are stage managing the end game.

Hard to fathom some of these decisions. Which will backfire and they will probably then come up with someone else to try to blame when they do.

I presume they will be telling all the old and vulnerable not to go near their families this winter? Or if it ends up as it might they will just blame them retrospectively for not being cautious enough.

At the very least our leader should be out there fronting the nation telling us why the choice is not with the families to inoculate or not. As it should be.
 
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roubaixtuesday said:
Crazy decision.

I've posted research on here before showing there's a clear risk benefit to the children themselves. JCVI have never, to date, published any quantitative rationale for their position.

It seems against all the evidence, mere hand waving.

Meanwhile, we can expect pretty much every single child to get the delta variant. And yet more disruption to education as a result. And more transmission, hospitalisation and death to vulnerable family members.

3000 u18s have been hospitalised to date.

Almost every other developed country is doing this.

We've lost the plot.
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I have no idea if this a good decision or not. Personally, I would have thought it made sense to vaccinate, but that is just a gut feeling.

Time will tell.
 
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