Coronavirus (2022) thread

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Healdplace said:
Covid is a family of viruses so they likely will have discussed health implications of them years ago if any managed to get here and were dangerous. But Covid 19 - the one we have now (19 being a clue nobody thinks it was the first) - has created a pandemic that the others had the potential to do but none did.
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the 19 in Covid-19 refers to 2019 - "novel coronavirus 2019" - the name is actually SARS-CoV-2.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Now it’s pretty much at the end - will the world not really care that it likely started from a Chinese laboratory?
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Not if they admit it and the world agrees an international deal over handling such things to be sure it can never happen again. Though patrolling that and our suspicious nature of one another will sadly mean that is improbable. On the argument - evil will so good must do it too - just in case. Though I am sure some true international policing could be possible if all agree the risk of this happening - even if it did not happen this time - is something no nation - however governed - should want to see happen again.

There ar some good things that could come out of the ending of this pabdemic. This is one. A proper vaccinating the world stategy and a global perspective n threats that threaten us all are others.

Hopefully we seize those possibilities and not just return to our usual arguing selfish ways.
 
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shemnel said:
the 19 in Covid-19 refers to 2019 - "novel coronavirus 2019" - the name is actually SARS-CoV-2.
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Thank you for the clarification. I should have probably best avoided replying to the original post which I took to be sincere when I read it. I probaby should know better on social media to think that.

But that BBC experiment and the programme made about it did assume a flu pandemic and I think that presumption caught a lot out who had not imagined a Covid one beng able to spread so easily across the globe.

It was a very illuminating documentary - though I forget the name of it. It is probably on i player.

It had never even crossed my mind that their use of mobile phones as a means to spread the imaginary disease to the right numbers of the population by virtue of whether they were messaged that they were positive or negative and should need to isolate was connected with the daft ideas about mobile phone mind control or whatever these arguments are as I have never read up on them to know.

I bet nobody watching that documentary in 2019 thought that about what was actually a very illuminating TV experiment. But I guess some now assume it was a secret plan between government and BBC to dry run the real thing.

Both that and the movie Contagion eleven years ago show very well how we have seen this kind of thing coming for ages and in effect still just sleepwalked into the consequences. Though thankfully science - especially in vaccines - had progressed just enough in that decade since 2011 and was fast tracked through 2020 - to mean we could save possibly hundreds of thousands of lives globally that we might not have otherwise done with Covid.
 
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Healdplace said:
Covid is a family of viruses so they likely will have discussed health implications of them years ago if any managed to get here and were dangerous. But Covid 19 - the one we have now (19 being a clue nobody thinks it was the first) - has created a pandemic that the others had the potential to do but none did.

So this one is novel in that respect because it did. And everyone refers to it as Covid for short. So you surely knew what I meant. Much planning for a pandemic was built around a flu like pandemic and only months before Covid arrived there was a chilling BBC documetary that was created as an experiment using mobile phones to imaginarily infect people following the plans and science to see how it spread across a real town and beyond. It assumed the same premise.

We discussed it in here in the early days of the pandemic.

By chance the town they chose to be focus and involved many of the citizens in had one of the very first real Covid cases after the simulation when the real thing arrived.
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Covid was never named in that 2015 ALICE exercise. it was an exercise to see what would happen if there was a MERS outbreak / pandemic.

just For reference. Naming wise.

Naming the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it

An explanation of the official names for the corona virus disease (COVID-2019) and the virus that causes it.
www.who.int www.who.int

SARS-CoV-2 is the virus. Its a Novel Coronavirus, as in the virus is in the Coronavirusfamily but is new to humans so it was calssed as Novel as no human immunity was expected.

COVID-19 is the disease the virus causes.

They didn't want to call it SARS-19 due to the 2003 SARS outbreak so they named it COVID.


Edit: Sorry I just noticed there had been comments on this alreayd.
 
grunge said:
Covid was never named in that 2015 ALICE exercise. it was an exercise to see what would happen if there was a MERS outbreak / pandemic.

just For reference. Naming wise.

Naming the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it

An explanation of the official names for the corona virus disease (COVID-2019) and the virus that causes it.
www.who.int www.who.int

SARS-CoV-2 is the virus. Its a Novel Coronavirus, as in the virus is in the Coronavirusfamily but is new to humans so it was calssed as Novel as no human immunity was expected.

COVID-19 is the disease the virus causes.

They didn't want to call it SARS-19 due to the 2003 SARS outbreak so they named it COVID.


Edit: Sorry I just noticed there had been comments on this alreayd.
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No problem, that was a very helpful reply. Thank you for clarifying.
 
bluetonium said:
Cheers. Part of me thinks "sod it, let's just mingle in our household and all get it".
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That's the approach we took in our household. My reasoning being it will catch up with all of us and we received a booster about 10 days after the first case at home. May as well it be (micron than another variant :) Part of my consideration was that one period of isolation is better than three of them (three of us in the household).

It was frustrating as the little in and missus caught Covid but I tested negative (via LFT). I did have the same symptoms as the missus who did test positive. I can only think it is superior genes.
 
hammocity said:
Dare we criticise some of the NHS Staff? All the absenteeism after New Year and all they had to do was say they’d been in contact with someone who had Covid and that’s a nice little holiday on full pay. Obviously not just NHS but looking at the numbers definitely some of them, banging pots and pans was never for me, they stepped up to the plate when required but after all it’s their job, just like a Soldier who goes into battle, don’t expect it but that’s what the training is for.
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Lol
 
mcfc_ms said:
When is the next covid briefing from the Government on rule changes, returning to work etc?
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A review of "Plan B" restrictions in England could go ahead this week, a senior government source has said.

The measures are currently set in place until at least 26 January after they were introduced in December to try to curb the spread of the Omicron variant.
 
grunge said:
Covid was never named in that 2015 ALICE exercise. it was an exercise to see what would happen if there was a MERS outbreak / pandemic.

just For reference. Naming wise.

Naming the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it

An explanation of the official names for the corona virus disease (COVID-2019) and the virus that causes it.
www.who.int www.who.int

SARS-CoV-2 is the virus. Its a Novel Coronavirus, as in the virus is in the Coronavirusfamily but is new to humans so it was calssed as Novel as no human immunity was expected.

COVID-19 is the disease the virus causes.

They didn't want to call it SARS-19 due to the 2003 SARS outbreak so they named it COVID.


Edit: Sorry I just noticed there had been comments on this alreayd.
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One question I would like the conspiracy theorists to answer but they never seem able to is why weren't they all spouting their hoax virus shite during that 2003 SARS outbreak in the Far East? I think we all know the reason but not a chance that any of them are ever going to admit to it.
 
85 deaths - up from 77 last Monday

England only 63 - was 55 last Monday

84.429 cases - first rise in 5 days.

Up 9398 on yesterday - but down from 142,224 last week by 57,795

England only 74,249 - up 7976 on yesterday - but down from 115.998 last week by 41,749
 
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England hospital numbers today

Good and bad news. On the whole good.When you look behind the headline numbers.

Every region rose today. But most modestly and less than last Monday

Monday is always the biggest rise pretty well every week for obvious reasons.

Up 249 on yesterday to 16,621. Last Monday the rise was 721 to 17,120 - so down 499 week to week.

Hopefully it will do what happened last week and most weeks when things are more 'normal' fall Tuesday to Friday.

Every region rose today - London rose by 73 to 3537, Midlands the most by 80 to 3122 and North West rose by 49 to 3092.

Ventilators also rose by 4 to 623 - last Monday they rose by 3 to 707.

London still by far the most on 219 (up 8) - nearly a third of them all

South West has fallen to a third of where it was 2 weeks ago to just 23.

North West is also falling and down another 9 today to 65.

THAT is the lowest number on ventilators in the North West since 14 JUNE.

Just 65 out of 3092 on venilator beds is the lowest patient to ventilator ratio I can recall seeing. It means around 98% of patients in hospital with Covid in the NW are NOT on ventilators. And likely will not be there for more than a few days.

For comparison this day in 2021 NW had 383 on ventilators from 4151 patients - a VERY different picture.
 
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All the other data will be on the other thread as usual but these numbers above are the key day to day now.
 
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