Coronavirus (2022) thread

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Optimism is all very well, but the calls of “it’s over” are wishful thinking. It isn’t over just because you’re fed up of it, we’re all fed up of it. But to just become complacent and pretend it’s not an issue anymore isn’t the answer, and no I don’t have the answer, I just hope that this relentless disaster movie plot has a happy ending sooner rather than later.

I think we may be at an Alamein moment:

"Now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

How it goes from here depends both on what we do, and what the virus does, and neither are remotely predictable.

I saw this today, and it made sense to me.

 
Funny to read this, despite the fact

(1) nobody actually did that at the time and
(2) the SA health agency published a report just last week, posted on here, saying it was still not possible now!
Its straightforward for a mathematician - you line up the start points on infection and away you go. It's called Curve Fitting and Least Square Analysis - the last of which you yourself described very well before Christmas!
 
Definitely not for other parts of the World but over here in the UK it certainly feels like it’s coming to an end - all restrictions soon to be lifted , unless a new Variant appears then we are at the finishing line

A new variant WILL appear. The key is not to flap and overreact but to accept it and get on with life working around it rather than acting as if we’re back in March 2020. There is no finish line, Covid will likely be here long after we’re all dead but its impact is decreasing all the time and the government now need to march all those that have been scared shitless back down the hill again.
 
Its straightforward for a mathematician - you line up the start points on infection and away you go. It's called Curve Fitting and Least Square Analysis - the last of which you described very well before Christmas!

Haha!

So straightforward, neither you nor anyone else actually did it.
 
I think we may be at an Alamein moment:

"Now this is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning."

How it goes from here depends both on what we do, and what the virus does, and neither are remotely predictable.

I saw this today, and it made sense to me.


Haha you must be the most miserable sod on this website.

There’s definitely people being over optimistic but that’s completely natural that people have hope when things look up after a complete shitter of a 2 years.

But people being overly pessimistic and desperate to prove things are worse than they are is what I cannot understand.
 
Haha you must be the most miserable sod on this website.

There’s definitely people being over optimistic but that’s completely natural that people have hope when things look up after a complete shitter of a 2 years.

But people being overly pessimistic and desperate to prove things are worse than they are is what I cannot understand.

I think you've misunderstood my post completely.
 
To be fair, their infection model is a lot better this time round. Sadly, yet again, the virulence model is totally to cock.
It really wasn't that difficult to compare Delta and Omicron in SA and use that is the basis of the model. But no, they didn't.
Sadly, continually crying wolf has consequences.
Well the report is full of caveats but these are the numbers its concludes with. Neil Fergusson's numbers were actually far worse. The problem with getting your forecasts so wrong so often is that those in power will start to expect them to be wrong and possibly ignore them as routine. The actual threats posed by the next variant is now more likley to be dissmissed imo. Its not a good situation. I hope someone in government or the Civil Service will be questioning the conclusions drawn up by SAGE so that lessons can be learned.
 
Well the report is full of caveats but these are the numbers its concludes with. Neil Fergusson's numbers were actually far worse. The problem with getting your forecasts so wrong so often is that those in power will start to expect them to be wrong and possibly ignore them as routine. The actual threats posed by the next variant is now more likley to be dissmissed imo. Its not a good situation. I hope someone in government or the Civil Service will be questioning the conclusions drawn up by SAGE so that lessons can be learned.
Quite.
This is my big worry as well.
You cry wolf too often and people ignore you, and that could well be catastrophic.
 
When I watched Contagion last year I assumed it was made-for-TV movie released in 2020. The fact it was 11 years old and contained all the same references ("r" rates, social distancing etc) was eerie..
Brilliant film, the medical advisor was on the Radio and explained they knew the potential of a Covid disease for many years, watching the film just makes you gasp with all the scenarios that have come true, as you say “eerie”.
 
Plan B taken forward for several weeks.Cases
Peak:
600,000 to 2 million per day. Timing: Late December 2021 to January 2022.
Hospitalisations
Peak:
3,000 to 10,000 admissions per day. Timing: January to February 2022. Shape: increase over December and January to peak, declining over March to April 2022.
Deaths
Peak:
600 to 6,000 deaths per day. Timing: Mid-January to mid-March 2022.
This is SAGEs best case scenario for the continuation of Plan B, Published on the 15th Dec. People can draw their own conclusions. But its very difficult to argue that this is anything but way off the mark so far. Unless you like to argue that is?! :-)
When we already knew it wouldn’t be that bad but they just wouldn’t listen to those uneducated, nasty, no nothing South Africans would they?
 
Around 2,000 hamsters in Hong Kong will be culled after several tested positive for COVID-19 at a pet store.

Officials said the sale and import of hamsters across the city will also be stopped.

The move came after an employee at the pet shop tested positive for the Omicron variant.
 
Around 2,000 hamsters in Hong Kong will be culled after several tested positive for COVID-19 at a pet store.

Officials said the sale and import of hamsters across the city will also be stopped.

The move came after an employee at the pet shop tested positive for the Omicron variant.
Jurgen Klopp has already asked for an investigation
 
Around 2,000 hamsters in Hong Kong will be culled after several tested positive for COVID-19 at a pet store.

Officials said the sale and import of hamsters across the city will also be stopped.

The move came after an employee at the pet shop tested positive for the Omicron variant.
Have Everton agreed to this?
 

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