Coronavirus (2022) thread

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Todays Zoe data is also the best in some time.

Daily predicted cases down the most in weeks - nearly 10,000 to go sub 200K on 193,751

And ongoing cases total 3.042,083 - the first week to week fall since the first few days of September when this wave took off after the August Bank Holiday.

Certainly looks like the booster is doing its job.
 
Healdplace said:
Todays Zoe data is also the best in some time.

Daily predicted cases down the most in weeks - nearly 10,000 to go sub 200K on 193,751

And ongoing cases total 3.042,083 - the first week to week fall since the first few days of September when this wave took off after the August Bank Holiday.

Certainly looks like the booster is doing its job.
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I'm coming over in February with a yankie friend who hasn't had the jab.
An impossible question for anyone to answer here but wondering if the numbers go back up if the need for a Vax could come back too.....
 
I will be surprised if serious restrictions come back bar a very worrying variant that does seem to evade the vaccines or treatments.

That can happen and is totally unpredictable but Christmas is the most likely time to drive a wave so January peak and falling by February mght be a good guess. Though that is all that it is.

Anyone going unjabbed is risking this impacting travel somewhere in the world possibly indefinitely.

But I doubt that airlines and hotels are going to get restrictive in a hurry.
 
I've just been looking at the original(?) CV thread from Jan 2020 on and it's sobering how much we just didn't know then and how scary it all seemed. Just seems like another day now, two and half years down the line.

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We have had outbreaks before (saudi 2012) Is it as serious as the news is scare mongering or like other virus outbreaks gonna be over not long after it starts.
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That flashback to early 2020 above is odd to see now. But illuminating.

Pandemics like this are thankfully rare. Probably once a century. Though that was pre global travel and my bet is they are now going to be once a generation instead unless we find ways to test inobtrusively at all travel ports and isolate rapidly.

Any new one out of the blue is going to be scary. We were too slow to react up front in some ways but once we got to the point it was apparent the PM might die any minute things improved. And the vaccine reaction was and is a triumph of science.

There are things we got right and things we got wrong. The trick is to learn from them and implement plans now for the next one and rehearse and rehearse.

That BBC wargaming of a pandemic in a TV show just before the real one was chilling in some ways as it showed that we knew what to expect from a fairly known diseaase. As in a type of flu they chose. NOt what we got, of course.Covid had the potenial to kill a large fraction of the planet's population but science and medicine responded superbly.

Problem is as we see now it near left political and financial chaos in its wake,probably emboldened dictators to start wars on the assumption the west would be in no shape to react. And far from making the public more aware of the risk and taking permanent measures to stem the next one before it gets catastrophic we are mainly so tired of how it has interrupted lives that we are likely little prepared to mitigate the next one if it comes sooner rather than later as people will remember the past and not want to recreate that hardship in the future.

The older you are the more you will be cautious, of course, as all disease disproportionately targets the over 60s but society has to find a balance between caution and normality.

The biggest thing we can and should do is set up a global investigation to plan strategies to research, observe and be ready to react as a planet to the next one. Not face 100 different responses depending on location and politics. And put money into a global fund to allow vaccination of the poor, monitoring of areas where something might evolve and a global surveillance programme more robust than now in countries where that is most likely.

This is something that is indiscriminate of friends or enemies or shades of government. It is about planetary defence.

We need to act as a planet to be ready for Pandemic 2 - The Sequel. As sequels in Hollywood are usually worse than the original.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
I'm coming over in February with a yankie friend who hasn't had the jab.
An impossible question for anyone to answer here but wondering if the numbers go back up if the need for a Vax could come back too.....
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I wouldn’t let him in.
The US won’t allow unvaccinated travellers in.
 
No idea what I've got or if it's a series of things, posted on here on the 14th that I had a headache that wouldn't shift, that's faded mostly but I've had sore throat runny nose and still a headache since then, this morning it's on my chest too. Usually a pretty healthy guy, vitamin every day, high fruit and veg intake etc. Have been drinking a bit too much coffee and letting the water slip, but hardly a crime.

Took another covid test this morning and negative, came back to it an hour later and very very faint line. Is it accurate or expired after an hour? Out of tests though and would have to go to the pharmacy and pay a couple of quid for another to be sure, best had I suppose as wife still expects us to attend her cousins party tonight without a certified test, witness statement and following interrogation!
 
bluetonium said:
No idea what I've got or if it's a series of things, posted on here on the 14th that I had a headache that wouldn't shift, that's faded mostly but I've had sore throat runny nose and still a headache since then, this morning it's on my chest too. Usually a pretty healthy guy, vitamin every day, high fruit and veg intake etc. Have been drinking a bit too much coffee and letting the water slip, but hardly a crime.

Took another covid test this morning and negative, came back to it an hour later and very very faint line. Is it accurate or expired after an hour? Out of tests though and would have to go to the pharmacy and pay a couple of quid for another to be sure, best had I suppose as wife still expects us to attend her cousins party tonight without a certified test, witness statement and following interrogation!
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More likely you’ve got a small level of infection still, false positives are extremely rare.

I tested positive initially two and a half weeks ago and still haven’t got rid of all the symptoms.
 
Had it twice now and completely different symptoms both times. Rough as a bears arse both times and my chest still feels fucked 2 weeks later.
 
bluetonium said:
No idea what I've got or if it's a series of things, posted on here on the 14th that I had a headache that wouldn't shift, that's faded mostly but I've had sore throat runny nose and still a headache since then, this morning it's on my chest too. Usually a pretty healthy guy, vitamin every day, high fruit and veg intake etc. Have been drinking a bit too much coffee and letting the water slip, but hardly a crime.

Took another covid test this morning and negative, came back to it an hour later and very very faint line. Is it accurate or expired after an hour? Out of tests though and would have to go to the pharmacy and pay a couple of quid for another to be sure, best had I suppose as wife still expects us to attend her cousins party tonight without a certified test, witness statement and following interrogation!
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Thought 30mins is the longest you can leave them? Apparently If you go back to it any longer it can do a false positive so have been told if true?
 
waspish said:
Thought 30mins is the longest you can leave them? Apparently If you go back to it any longer it can do a false positive so have been told if true?
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Yes apparently, just a bit weird that it would show up positive at all to me. If there's nothing to produce the reaction within 30mins, why is it showing a faint positive after 60?

Another test is the only way to know I think. Would explain why I've been feeling like someone's been using a jackhammer on my bonce for the past week.
 
bluetonium said:
Yes apparently, just a bit weird that it would show up positive at all to me. If there's nothing to produce the reaction within 30mins, why is it showing a faint positive after 60?

Another test is the only way to know I think. Would explain why I've been feeling like someone's been using a jackhammer on my bonce for the past week.
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That’s the reason why there is a 30 min cut off leave it long enough it will be positive when in fact your not positive
 
waspish said:
Thought 30mins is the longest you can leave them? Apparently If you go back to it any longer it can do a false positive so have been told if true?
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It depends on the test, some you’re supposed to leave for 30 minutes before looking at it, some you shouldn’t read after that time.
 
Treatment From Banana Protein Beats All Known COVID Variants, Flu
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Photo of the Coronavirus. By NIAID Rocky Mountain Laboratories (RML), U.S. NIH – https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/novel-coronavirus-sarscov2-images, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=87089605
An international study has produced a promising treatment from banana protein which has proven effective against all known COVID variants and flu in animal testing.

The COVID treatment worked in animal models whether delivered systemically or through the nose, either prophylactically or therapeutically early on in the illness, the University of Michigan Medical School explains in a blog post.

The initial study, published in early January 2020, announced that a compound modeled on a protein found in bananas safely protects against multiple strains of the influenza virus.

“At the time, we thought MERS would be the big target, which we were worried about because of its 35% mortality rate,” said David Markovitz, M.D., professor of internal medicine, Division of Infectious Diseases at the University of Michigan Medical School.

“When COVID-19 occurred, we of course wanted to study the therapy’s potential and discovered it was effective against every type of coronavirus, in vitro and in vivo,” Markovitz added.

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Now his team hopes to see the treatment go into testing in humans, as they envision a nasal spray or drops that can be used to prevent or treat coronavirus and influenza infections, in seasonal and pandemic situations.

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The treatment’s drastic component, H84T-BanLec, holds unique promise, according to the team, because, unlike other existing treatments for SARS-COV-2, it is effective against all coronavirus variants as well as influenza strains.

H84T-BanLec is derived from a lectin protein isolated from banana fruit, which features remarkable viral-blocking abilities.

It binds to high-mannose glycans, polysaccharides that are present on the surface of the viruses, but only very rarely on normal healthy human cells. After binding, the virus cannot enter cells to infect them.

Although lectins are known for their antiviral potential, they are generally avoided in the design of treatments because they could trigger harmful immune responses, but in this study scientists modified H84T-BanLec accordingly to remove the risk.

Researchers also hope to examine using H84T-BanLec against cancer, because cancer cells, like viruses, also have high mannose glycans on their surfaces which could be targeted by the banana-derived lectin.
 
Bizarrely I’m finding it reassuring to read of so many on here with it lingering and changing over time.
I first tested positive 15 days ago.
No,longer feeling wiped out all the time but have developed a runny nose, sneezing and the cough’s back.
 
Drugs prescribed to reduce cholesterol are likely to cut the chances of serious illness and death from coronavirus, a second study in the past year has found.

Research presented in the US this month showed that statins were likely to have lowered the risk of death and severity of Covid-19 in a study of more than 38,000 patients.
 
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