COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Gaylord du Bois]

Apologies if this has been raised before.

At 05:30 this morning, TWO ambulances and an ambulance car, turned up at the house opposite.
An 80ish lady lives there with her husband. She's been in poor health for a year or so (as good as housebound), and (I assume it was her), saw someone stretchered into the back of one of the ambulances. The thing is, ALL of the paramedics were in white paper suits. Is this a sign of the virus?

No burning bush but at a guess I'd say it's PPE.

 

[hello]

How much different would this all look like if it were akin to a solitary nuclear weapon being exploded somewhere, outside of the immediate loss of life?

Would similar measures have been enacted?

Just got me thinking.

mid it was on Wuhan on New Year’s Day virus would have almost certainly been contained and The newly formed lake Wuhan would be a tourist attraction in 20 years

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I wonder if there are conspiracy nutters in those three countries posting on a football forum about their governments covering things up?
Lune bleue
Luna blu
Luna azul

Can I throw in Luna and Lunati from the Argentine prison drama (El Marginal) that I have just watched on Netflix.

Hopefully, I will now but my time to better use because I have just started on my NHS volunteering lol.

 

[squirtyflower]

Can I throw in Luna and Lunati from the Argentine prison drama (El Marginal) that I have just watched on Netflix.

Hopefully, I will now but my time to better use because I have just started on my NHS volunteering lol.

Was it any good?

 

[davek1808]

Yes I remember this being a big discussion a few years ago about a terrorist detonating a dirty bomb.

What this pandemic has shown is you dont really need armies, weapons etcetera. Selective countries and the whole world could be destroyed by a biological weapon, or a few people infected with a virus sent out to travel and spread it.

Yeah thought that myself.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Also Bill Gates is going to manufacture all the most promising vaccine candidates before they are approved which should save months. Normally a vaccine is given the OK and then it takes 3-6 months to ramp up production to be able to send it out.

Gates is going to manufacture them all now, then destroy the ones which fail the approval procedure.

That should shave some months off the 12-18 prediciton.

I couldn’t access the WSJ article you linked incase this question is covered - how do you reliably test the duration of any immunity given by the vaccine without for example testing the people on trial with various viral loads over periods of 3/6 months to test re-infection protection levels we develop. We could end up with a global booster requirement on a quarterly basis which would be problematic as well.

I’d be amazed if this could be rolled out within a year of trials starting but very happy to be proven wrong here.

 

[M18CTID]

Hugely encouraging news that. Of course 1 data point does not mean much but nevertheless its a big drop, on the back of another drop. Realistically the figures today could have been as high as 700 or 800 had the growth still been accelerating.

Fingers crossed this trend continues. I cannot imagine we are over the worst yet, but maybe, just maybe we are? Sure as hell hope so.

Surprising news but positive news. Not that 400-odd deaths should ever be classed as that of course. I do wonder whether all the different authorities in the country don't always get their figures in on time for the announcement the next day, so I think it's a case of seeing what the trend is over the next couple of days at least. I'm not convinced we've hit the peak in terms of daily deaths as it took the likes of Spain and Italy longer following lockdown.

 

[DrBlueBob]

Good man :) Grudge ? Never. Lifes to short.However if you are/were a scouser then my whole mood my change ... and not for the better. ;)

If I were then I can't see myself admitting to it, much less on here.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Minimum economic damage was ALWAYS going to be caused by locking down sooner and harder. If we'd done so 2 weeks prior, and stopping fucking about with allowing crap like Cheltenham to go ahead and then when we did lockdown, not with this "it's ok to go out to exercise" bollocks, the peak would have been several weeks ago and we'd be very near to opening up pubs and restaurants again. The period of disruption although more severe would have been much shorter and survivable by more businesses.

That it has gone on - and will go on - as long as it is, is entirely due to the peak being bigger and taking longer to peak, because it's a bigger peak. And longer to decay back down again.

We could have simply hit the <pause> button on the economy, the government paid everyone for a short period and then we'd be back to some semblance of normality quite quickly. And the economy would bounce back.

This is still the best approach, we just made it more difficult. The sooner we have this thing under control, the sooner we can start getting back to normal and restarting the economy with the minimal of businesses lost. We do not minimise the length of the lockdown by allowing a few businesses to limp along. It actually hurts them more in the long run.

Disagree.
If you shut the economy down restarting it doesn't magically bring it back to life.
You also can't remove restrictions without testing and we never had the capacity to do it in the first place and will only barely have the capability by the end of this month and only then if things go well.
If you want to reduce the hit on the economy you have to keep it going.
Sadly this country is full of knob heads and we have a PHE and NHS whose doctrine is not to reecomend covering the nose and mouth. Thus accelerating the spread rate dramatically and making a policy of social isolation on it's own untenable.

 

[grunge]

We are a couple of weeks since the lockdown commenced mate. Hospital deaths tend to be 3 - 4 weeks from contracting the virus so the end of this week and next week are particularly significant. We won't know for a number of days whether today's figures are a blip or not (and figures reported towards the end of a weekend are notoriously unpredictable in the Health Service).

Cases are not dropping much if at all though. deaths will drop once cases drop. take a look at this... the deaths we are seeing now are from 2 weeks ago on the cases chart.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14