COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Academica]

Overwhelmed my arse. Most of them seem to be pissing about dancing and making tiktok videos.

I have 3 colleagues currently pissing about in intensive care.

 

[i8rags]

I have 3 colleagues currently dicking about in intensive care.

Tik tok mate?

 

[Academica]

Tik tok mate?

No fighting for their lives.

 

[sir baconface]

Really not sure what some people are wanting. Are they really suggesting unending lockdown with no easing (with restrictions and regulations) so a completely collapsed economy, potential food shortages, increasing domestic violence, increasing mental illness, growing numbers of suicides etc etc etc or the phased easing like the government is suggesting ? What's the bloody alternative ?

Have a guess at their jobs.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Mate the idiots are ripping it NOW. Its already a free for all.

Massive exaggeration.

Stop being hyperbolic and throwing your toys out the pram, the vast majority of people are adhering to the rules and understand why we need them.

 

[i8rags]

No fighting for their lives.

That was my point mate, ie not TikTok

 

[shemnel]

this R value has been brought down to a good level, all the while there has been a minority who havent really 'gotten into the spirit' of things throughout. Where i live it felt like it went back to almost normal life (but at 2m distance) about 2 weeks ago. I saw 6 socials in gardens yesterday in the space of about 500 yds, no joke. tis what it is.

 

[Marvin]

Different approach here from the BBC. Quite a good article because it challenges your preconceptions. Is this the start of a new propaganda campaign, or just a one-off different perspective?

I think the strategy is going to evolve so that we use new technology (mass, fat testing for antigen and antibodies) to protect the old and shielded population whilst the rest of the population get on with it. So far the old have not been adequately protected anywhere in the world where there has been a significant infection. Could it be done properly? We probably will have time now to implement much better procedures now if we wish to do this.

I switched disciplines from physics to bio-physics and there are a lot of biologists who hold these views. I think because this was the main-stay of epidemiology but does testing and new technology provide a way out. The argument I have heard is that South Korea and Germany show that mass-testing can work but it isn't an exit strategy. The world is international and you could eradicate it like New Zealand but once it's out it will always be there. Mass-testing buys you time at best. If there's a vaccine then this is the way to go. If there or it really does take 18 months then I am guessing that we are going to hear a lot more of the like you may read below.

The intellectual framework is now changing as we move from lockdown to post-lockdown. And we have a re-assessment of risk. That's how I read it. Or it could just be a kite.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52543692

 

[Academica]

That was my point mate, ie not TikTok

Ok I apologise, bit touchy.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Different approach here from the BBC. Quite a good article because it challenges your preconceptions. Is this the start of a new propaganda campaign, or just a different perspective?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52543692

Propoganda would be my perspective. I got to the sentence that said 'Edinburgh University and a group of London-based academics published a paper this week arguing restrictions could be lifted quite significantly if the most vulnerable were completely shielded', and choked on my cornflakes because we have been so competent in protecting our most vulnerable citizens so far haven't we? How many more care home deaths are we willing to tolerate as an allegedly civilised society?