COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Data is being misrepresented by the government and, what’s even worse is that the ’scientists’ are behaving that way as well. The ONS survey is adamant that the vast majority of infections are transmitted at school, university, work and places of worship. Hospitality accounts for 5% or less.
Whitty’s presentation said that 30% of people infected had visited some hospitality previously and the most common thing they did was ‘eat out’, whilst he didn’t even mention work as a risk. Now, if uni students are making up a third of the cases, it’s unlikely that they’ve not been out, in the week prior to testing positive, I’d imagine?

This is the Politicians Fallacy coming into effect, sadly. ’We don’t want to close schools, we don’t want to stop people going to work, we can’t do anything about care homes because our Test and Trace plans have completely failed (what were they doing over the summer), but something must be done, they say. Shutting hospitality is something and, as something must be done, we will do that. Any evidence? Nah, but what does that matter?
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That would be using the positive cases as the problem .It isn't the rising number of those that require hospital treatment is the problem. Those people aren't students so forget that is a red herring. Those going to hospital aren't students and those people are contracting it in other places. The evidence shows pubs are a big part of it. As I keep repeating 1 place has closed pubs at the start of a spike, Aberdeen. SAmall sample but it worked and quickly.
When there were 1000 cases in Scotland the other day about 50 were of school age so it isn't happening in schools.
 
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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Data is being misrepresented by the government and, what’s even worse is that the ’scientists’ are behaving that way as well. The ONS survey is adamant that the vast majority of infections are transmitted at school, university, work and places of worship. Hospitality accounts for 5% or less.
Whitty’s presentation said that 30% of people infected had visited some hospitality previously and the most common thing they did was ‘eat out’, whilst he didn’t even mention work as a risk. Now, if uni students are making up a third of the cases, it’s unlikely that they’ve not been out, in the week prior to testing positive, I’d imagine?

This is the Politicians Fallacy coming into effect, sadly. ’We don’t want to close schools, we don’t want to stop people going to work, we can’t do anything about care homes because our Test and Trace plans have completely failed (what were they doing over the summer), but something must be done, they say. Shutting hospitality is something and, as something must be done, we will do that. Any evidence? Nah, but what does that matter?
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What a dick head he is. Of course most people have visited some form of hospitality in the weeks before they tested positive. They also would have visited shops, parks, possibly trains and a host of other things. Seems to me that they have to be seen to do something and hospitality is the unlucky sector. Pretty sure going for a meal is safer than going to Primark with all the grubby hands touching clothes and hand rails etc. Why not shut retail that can still operate online?
 
The problem with the hospitality industry in Greater Manchester is they want their cake and eat it.

They want to be open but don’t want to check ppl coming in are all from the same household. You can’t have it both ways, if you are open then you MUST ensure ppl coming in are from the same household or in a bubble. This isn’t happening as far as I am aware. Maybe if they’d done that infections wouldn’t have spiked?
 
The Northern Baptist said:
The problem with the hospitality industry in Greater Manchester is they want their cake and eat it.

They want to be open but don’t want to check ppl coming in are all from the same household. You can’t have it both ways, if you are open then you MUST ensure ppl coming in are from the same household or in a bubble. This isn’t happening as far as I am aware. Maybe if they’d done that infections wouldn’t have spiked?
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How do they do that? The responsibility lies with the people themselves, the pubs etc can do table service, distancing etc but if a bunch of tossers lie to them about bubbles etc what can they possibly do?
 
I got told off for singing the Welsh national anthem in the pub last night. Apparently singing is prohibited because of COVID-19.
 
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