COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Healdplace]

GM numbers are also good. Most places down and the second lowest weekly total of the week. At 1453 - 166 down on yesterday.

The last seven day run is 1455, 1533, 1445. 1521, 1515, 1619, 1453.

In what universe is that doubling. Looks to me like a plateau or indeed a fall (admittedly of just 2! over the seven days.)

If the economy is being based on these kind of sums we must all be millionaires by now.

 

[kaz7]

Cases in GM have doubled in last 2 weeks he says. The situation is grave there. There will be more in ICUs in Manchester soon than in April. Says Boris.

Will not shut down businesses in Cornwall because Manchester has to 'unless I absolutely have to' do this nationally.

If it is really low in cornwall then seal them off aside from work or essential journeys out , i am cornish and still have family there and they wont mind one bit, same for isle of white, jersey etc, if they are really low as well, i dont seem to hear about them

 

[Summerbuzz]

No they aren’t.

Twice the rate of hospitalisations per capita since Sept 1 - admittedly not corrected for other factors. But it's a stark statistic and I haven't read anything that 'disproves' it.

 

[artfuldodger]

You’d think so and, for the summer I’d imagine that was true. However, there will now be patients being admitted with Covid plus another respiratory ailment. A recent study suggested Covid and flu together would double the time in hospital. Not only that, nosocomial infections are also driving the ‘patients in hospital‘ number. Up to 24% of Covid patients are catching it in hospital. Go in for a hip replacement an and catch it and you are added to the in hospital with Covid numbers.

My 87 year father in law, in hospital after having a heart attack, was sent home without warning, as 3 patients on his ward developed Covid. Told to self isolate and that he was safer at home. No care package or follow up appointment.

 

[grunge]

You’d think so and, for the summer I’d imagine that was true. However, there will now be patients being admitted with Covid plus another respiratory ailment. A recent study suggested Covid and flu together would double the time in hospital. Not only that, nosocomial infections are also driving the ‘patients in hospital‘ number. Up to 24% of Covid patients are catching it in hospital. Go in for a hip replacement an and catch it and you are added to the in hospital with Covid numbers.

I think they are both important measurements. how many being added each day gives an idea of how fast overflow will happen but total in hospital says how close you are to overflowing.

For example if we know the NW has 100 ICU beds ( figure for ease of example ) and we're at 75 used, if the figure going in is still faster than the figure going out then we know we wil hit saturation soon.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Twice the rate of hospitalisations per capita since Sept 1 - admittedly not corrected for other factors. But it's a stark statistic and I haven't read anything that 'disproves' it.

It’s socio economic status and jobs being done, underlying health conditions and living in houses of multiple occupancy, but it’s not ‘because‘ they are BAME.

 

[kaz7]

It is impossible to know what the long term affects could/will be though from both the virus and the vaccine that is my only worry. It happened with MMR and it's happened with many others, until there is a better data set which can only come with time I wouldn't personally feel it was right to 'test' it out on a child.

This is 2020 and every scientist is working on it, that should give you comfort really, children would be the last to get it i would imagine and it will probably not be a live virus so it wouldnt make you ill, it is being properly tested, dont worry about that

The guy who scared everyone withthe MMR vaccine was shown to be a crank , measles will kill kids if the get it badly , there is no reason to take that risk

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I think they are both important measurements. how many being added each day gives an idea of how fast overflow will happen but total in hospital says how close you are to overflowing.

For example if we know the NW has 100 ICU beds ( figure for ease of example ) and we're at 75 used, if the figure going in is still faster than the figure going out then we know we wil hit saturation soon.

We do but that’s true every year. Less ICU patients in NW hospitals this week than the equivalent week last year and ICU always gets full between October and January.

 

[Summerbuzz]

It’s socio economic status and jobs being done, underlying health conditions and living in houses of multiple occupancy, but it’s not ‘because‘ they are BAME.

That's supposition mate. No way anyone can demonstrate that yet.

 

[blueparrot]

It is impossible to know what the long term affects could/will be though from both the virus and the vaccine that is my only worry. It happened with MMR and it's happened with many others, until there is a better data set which can only come with time I wouldn't personally feel it was right to 'test' it out on a child.

What happened with MMR ?