COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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The 350 England hospital deaths reported today were aged between 25 and 100.

Just 7 - aged 30 to 97 - had no previously known underlying conditions
 
Boris by the way said the vaccinations since Sunday take us up to about 800,000 today.

That is over 1% of the UK population. And about 6.4% of the most vulnerable - ie over 65 s - though they are not the only ones getting these early doses as health care workers are too - so it will be less than that.

And even higher of the over 80s who are prioritised now. There are 3.2 million of those to reach.

Most over 80s have been told to expect it from a week on Monday onwards when it seems the Oxford vaccine will be on stream and the number of inoculation centres will multiply - including one near the Etihad where she expects to get her vaccination that week. Largely as asking the most vulnerable over 80s to travel to the limited vaccine centres we have now with the hard to deploy first vaccine are impossible for many to reach.
How soon do you think we'll be seeing this in falling death rates? My Mum, 82, has been told January for hers. My Father in law, 87 had his first dose last week
 
Government is by the way 'considering' the suggestion to give the Pffeizer vaccine to twice as many people by uing just one dose from the early orders they have for this.
 
How soon do you think we'll be seeing this in falling death rates? My Mum, 82, has been told January for hers. My Father in law, 87 had his first dose last week
The decisions are not made from clinical need but ease of access with this tricky vaccine.

Once we have the Oxford vaccine it will be done on vulnerability and age in the tiers they have created.

My friend who has to wait to January could not be more vulnerable - older than either the above - with very severe asthma, a son who died around 30 from asthma, in heart failure for over a year and having spent last Christmas in hospital with sepsis and pneumonia that she beat.

So if it was just priority of need she would have been in the first 800,000 I am certain.

As for when we will see death rates fall. Hopefully by mid January it will start as the transition from catching it to dying is at least 4 weeks or so on average. So by the end of January there ought to be a visible difference but it will be offset by all the other factors - rising cases potentially increasing hospital pressures, deaths from other things that are common in winter but will likely get put down to Covid.

Going to depend on many things - not least how well one dose does protect.

Watching the death figures in coming weeks will tell us a lot. But it is not a simple equation to work out as multiple factors 'cause' what is reported as a 'Covid death'.

We should first notice something in care home deaths once they are mostly protected. As these are inevitably major places where the over 80s catch it. And staff are in this first wave of vaccinations and that should have an impact too.
 
If we're not going to play vaccine delivery by the book then I think we'll be in more trouble long-term than its worth. It's been tested and approved a certain way for a reason and should be delivered that way for safety and public confidence.
 
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