COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Bluesince1979]

Reports stating 70k new cases in the last few days.
Not sure how bad that is compared to when the virus started.
But it seems a hell of a lot...

Are you trying to neg my out further ?? ;)

 

[grunge]

Those were my thoughts too.

I was thinking a stamp to the face personally.

then I thought it would be funnier to roll trollies at him at high speed from different angles.

 

[kippax4ever]

Are you trying to neg my out further ?? ;)

No way mate..lol

 

[Gabriel]

Manufacturing issues mean there is only 50% of the expected supply available would guess they will have to pro rata.

Supply challenges cause Pfizer’s vaccine production target to be cut

Pfizer spokesperson reveals supply challenges and late clinical trial results contributed to its COVID-19 vaccine production target being halved.

www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com

That 50% only refers to the anticipated delivery in 2020, so a cut from 100 million to 50 million. At the same time, it is increasing production so should have more available in early 2021.

 

[Marvin]

Quite.
There are about 25 million of 50 or over, plus the vulnerable who are younger.

By the time they try something more nuanced by geography, they should have reached 80-90% of those in the main target area. At that point, as long as there aren't shortages in any region, they should just get on with it.

I highly doubt they'll want to keep London in Tier 4 lockdown until march (the target for vaccinating the over 50s).

 

[kippax4ever]

As much as there are wankers in the U.K., it could be worse...

Bucket off piss all over the fkwitt.
Or drag the c.nt out for trespassing.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Imagine we had no source of media, we would be completely f*cked!

all the rules on social distancing, hand washing, contagious areas etc have been given to us via the media.

Ive just had a letter through the door sent by the Health Board and local authority about it

 

[ganganvince]

I highly doubt they'll keep London in Tier 4 lockdown until march (the target for vaccinating the over 50s).

Looking at the curve will be a political decision on when to reduce measures a lot of the risk is mitigated very early in programme.
Courtesy of @twosips

 

[yozzerblue]

Just had another letter telling me to shield as my area is now tier 4. I live in Rochdale which is currently tier 3.
Just wandering if it has been sent by mistake, or is tier 4 coming during xmas when the poster of said email will be on holiday. Leaving the mainstream media to deliver the bad news.

 

[Blue Maverick]

That's the spirit.

Obviously you’ll be out there volunteering then on your days off for weeks possibly months?

 

[Claytop]

Looking at the curve will be a political decision on when to reduce measures a lot of the risk is mitigated very early in programme.
Courtesy of @twosips

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I like that graph, hopefully we’ll be seeing the vaccination effects sooner rather than later.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Obviously you’ll be out there volunteering then on your days off for weeks possibly months?

If told to I wont have a say in it and will have to, as I have done for months. So yes.

 

[Ban-jani]

As much as there are wankers in the U.K., it could be worse...

That’s actually an adult.

Unbelievable.

 

[Marvin]

It won't happen anyway, currently the largest growth in many areas is amongst kids, and its not approved for them anyway, and the people needing protection most are the over 70's and most vulnerable (as well as health workers), so that will continue to be the target.

I think it would be unwise not to address the cluster with vaccines. Even with Tier 4 restrictions it will spread geographically. of course it will do anyway but we want to minimise the 'seeds'. And needless to say vaccination will take months and this is doubling in the SE & London every 6 days. Let's see how the variables play out for there are many unknowns.

 

[JamesMCFC]

I know with this jab that you need to two of them to get fully immunised.

So does one job do nothing or does it say get you 50% immunised?

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Looking at the curve will be a political decision on when to reduce measures a lot of the risk is mitigated very early in programme.
Courtesy of @twosips

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Great visualisation that, and cause for optimism.

A note of caution: whilst the median age of death is 82, the median age of hospitalisation is much lower, 62.

There's a danger that we relax too soon according to the logic of that graph and end up with an out of control epidemic amongst u70s which still has the capability to knock out NHS capability and cause lasting harm to millions.

 

[cleavers]

I highly doubt they'll want to keep London in Tier 4 lockdown until march (the target for vaccinating the over 50s).

Vaccinating people who don't need it wouldn't help the situation either.

The vaccine doesn't stop the spread, it prevents serious illness and death amongst the old/vulnerable, which is why it's been targetted at those it has first.

 

[Blue Maverick]

If told to I wont have a say in it and will have to, as I have done for months. So yes.

I take it your in the military then because otherwise they can’t make you.

 

[cleavers]

I know with this jab that you need to two of them to get fully immunised.

So does one job do nothing or does it say get you 50% immunised?

As I understand it, it introduces some immunity, which builds over the 21 days, then you get the second jab, and that builds it to full immunity.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I know with this jab that you need to two of them to get fully immunised.

So does one job do nothing or does it say get you 50% immunised?

Short term immunity looks very good within days. 2nd jab needed for long term.

From FDA review, there's a nice graph showing how quick it sets in