Covid

[HaalandEffect]

All medications have some kind of side effects. The COVID vaccines are relatively safe and effective at fighting the COVID virus. REAL facts.
Did you know that more people have adverse reactions to antibiotics ? I bet you still take them when you have a big boil on your arse.
All you do is cherry-pick negative stories...and they all can be easily dismissed. EVERY time. You will IGNORE all the science that says the vaccines are safe and effective. You'll ignore all the stats and facts....and you'll still pick out that one negative claim. Again and again. Pathetic.

Cant we get the stats for all reported side effect from diffrent covid vaccines?

So we can see it more objectiv.

Its not cherry picking that vaccines is need 13-15 years to approval.

Many of us did get the svineflu vaccine when we was young, but did know better.

2019 marks ten years since Norwegian Patient Injury Compensation (NPE) assumed responsibility for compensation for the vaccine Pandemrix against swine flu. Since then, NPE has received 801 applications and paid out nearly NOK 350 million in compensation.

In the aftermath of the swine flu pandemic in 2009 and 2010, there were reports from Sweden and Finland of a disturbing trend.
Several children who had taken the new vaccine Pandemrix had contracted the sleep disorder narcolepsy.

1. The largest main groups of side effects (among the 583 serious ones) are:https://www.dmp.no/bivirkninger-og-...bivirkninger/meldte-bivirkninger-av-pandemrix
2. 72%: problems in the nervous system: Includes everything from frequent conditions such as headaches and changes in taste to paresis or convulsions, narcolepsy, (worsened) epilepsy and Guillain Barré syndrome
3. 58%: General disorders: Includes, among other things, pain, fever, pain/swelling at the injection site and difficulty walking.
4. 32%: Psychiatric disorders: Includes, among other things, everything from restlessness and confusion to mental changes, sleep disorders, language difficulties and depression.
5. 31%: Muscle and connective tissue disorders: Includes, among other things, muscle and joint pain.
6. 29%: Stomach and intestinal disorders. Includes, among other things, nausea, vomiting and abdominal pain.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

That two diffrent topics, Those vaccines are proven.

Covid vaccines arent, testing time for vaccines are 13 years?

That people take a risk for Temu vaccine is out of my understanding. I did not take the vaccine, im one of the few i know that did not take it. Was much 'bullying' and stigma if did not take it and it was optional if your own free will. Have said that i will consider the vaccine after the 13 years of testing, will likely never happen.
Almost like people where sheeps without awereness just taking the shots becouse the we trust what the gouverment says.

Testing times are not based on ‘time’ but on clinical phases. What the various governments guaranteeing funding did was to enable the vaccines to go through the phases much, much quicker than normal. Once they were declared safe, they could push on through the phases very quickly as their normal cost risk was taken away.
Vaccine A is safe but didn’t work in Phase 1.
Vaccine B is safe but didn’t work in phase 3.
Vaccines C is safe but didn’t work in phase 2.
Vaccine D is safe and works..

Normally, to get to vaccine D would take an age because of the costs of A, B and C and, in truth, it was probably vaccine X that eventually worked…

The only mistakes made, as far as I can see, was government attempting to make it mandatory and not explaining early enough that it would significantly reduce covid symptoms rather than mean you couldn’t catch covid.

 

[kaz7]

Cant we get the stats for all reported side effect from diffrent covid vaccines?

So we can see it more objectiv.

Its not cherry picking that vaccines is need 13-15 years to approval.

Many of us did get the svineflu vaccine when we was young, but did know better.

The work on covid vaccines were largly done and they added the covid bit to the work that had been done for other pandemics , hence it took a year , funding was released immediately instead of taking years at every phase , it was as safety tested as every other vaccines , vaccines are known to be relatively safe. The effects of the disease are what is naking people ill still , long covid ring a bell ?

 

[Marklr]

Cant we get the stats for all reported side effect from diffrent covid vaccines?

So we can see it more objectiv.

Its not cherry picking that vaccines is need 13-15 years to approval.

Many of us did get the svineflu vaccine when we was young, but did know better.

1. The largest main groups of side effects (among the 583 serious ones) are:https://www.dmp.no/bivirkninger-og-...bivirkninger/meldte-bivirkninger-av-pandemrix
2. 72%: problems in the nervous system: Includes everything from frequent conditions such as headaches and changes in taste to paresis or convulsions, narcolepsy, (worsened) epilepsy and Guillain Barré syndrome
3. 58%: General disorders: Includes, among other things, pain, fever, pain/swelling at the injection site and difficulty walking.
4. 32%: Psychiatric disorders: Includes, among other things, everything from restlessness and confusion to mental changes, sleep disorders, language difficulties and depression.
5. 31%: Muscle and connective tissue disorders: Includes, among other things, muscle and joint pain.
6. 29%: Stomach and intestinal disorders. Includes, among other things, nausea, vomiting and abdominal pain.

They're CLAIMS with no actual science behind them. Anyone can claim that they got ill...due to the vaccine. But the reality is...there is no evidence to back it up.
Vaccines do not need 13- 15 for approval years...that's bs.

 

[GornikDaze]

Cant we get the stats for all reported side effect from diffrent covid vaccines?

So we can see it more objectiv.

Its not cherry picking that vaccines is need 13-15 years to approval.

Many of us did get the svineflu vaccine when we was young, but did know better.

1. The largest main groups of side effects (among the 583 serious ones) are:https://www.dmp.no/bivirkninger-og-...bivirkninger/meldte-bivirkninger-av-pandemrix
2. 72%: problems in the nervous system: Includes everything from frequent conditions such as headaches and changes in taste to paresis or convulsions, narcolepsy, (worsened) epilepsy and Guillain Barré syndrome
3. 58%: General disorders: Includes, among other things, pain, fever, pain/swelling at the injection site and difficulty walking.
4. 32%: Psychiatric disorders: Includes, among other things, everything from restlessness and confusion to mental changes, sleep disorders, language difficulties and depression.
5. 31%: Muscle and connective tissue disorders: Includes, among other things, muscle and joint pain.
6. 29%: Stomach and intestinal disorders. Includes, among other things, nausea, vomiting and abdominal pain.

I’ll try again…
The article you linked earlier in the thread, I can post it again if you’ve forgotten, came to this conclusion
Post-approval, the vaccine's safety continues to be monitored through various systems such as VAERS, the Vaccine Safety Datalink, and the CISA Project. These systems track adverse events and conduct ongoing studies to ensure long-term safety and effectiveness. The process also involves special initiatives in emergency situations, as seen with the COVID-19 pandemic and Operation Warp Speed, which accelerated vaccine development while maintaining safety standards.

Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

Systems for developing and testing vaccines emerged after the 19th century, when many vaccines began to be used. The current system for developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century as the groups involved standardized their procedures and regulations.

historyofvaccines.org

This suggests that the evidence you provided is happy that the Covid vaccine was safe, or have I and the author of that report got the wrong end of the stick?

 

[dennishasdoneit]

My guess is none mate, save for watching a few crank videos and articles by some dodgy professor's conspiracy theories.

I have no medical training, but I know that my extended family and friends and neighbours all have had 4 or 5 covid jabs and none of them has suffered any ill effects.
If anyone doesn't want any vaccine I'm ok and respect their views, but to come on here preaching some weirdo gospel about a vaccine when millions of lives were saved worldwide should stop it and keep it to themselves. If you want proof of the millions saved then read about the Spanish flu and how many died from that with no vaccine. Over 100 million.
But hey, lets blame every ailment we have from now on on the covid vax "Oh I've just found out I have cataracts and I'm diabetic, it must be that covid vax"

The world got back to normal BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE.

5 states in the USA have started proceedings against a big pharma
Company pal. The leading state is Kansas.Thats a lot of folk taking ac tion.I wonder if the folk behind this movement share your view ...that the world is back to normal.i don't think so. Their lives have been ruined.The world is back to normal...but everyone is sick ?
Ok pal.....I give up.

 

[Marklr]

I’ll try again…
The article you linked earlier in the thread, I can post it again if you’ve forgotten, came to this conclusion
Post-approval, the vaccine's safety continues to be monitored through various systems such as VAERS, the Vaccine Safety Datalink, and the CISA Project. These systems track adverse events and conduct ongoing studies to ensure long-term safety and effectiveness. The process also involves special initiatives in emergency situations, as seen with the COVID-19 pandemic and Operation Warp Speed, which accelerated vaccine development while maintaining safety standards.

Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

Systems for developing and testing vaccines emerged after the 19th century, when many vaccines began to be used. The current system for developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century as the groups involved standardized their procedures and regulations.

historyofvaccines.org

This suggests that the evidence you provided is happy that the Covid vaccine was safe, or have I and the author of that report got the wrong end of the stick?

Also...he's referencing some vaccine which isn't even a COVID vaccine.

 

[Marklr]

5 states in the USA have started proceedings against a big pharma
Company pal. The leading state is Kansas.Thats a lot of folk taking ac tion.I wonder if the folk behind this movement share your view ...that the world is back to normal.i don't think so. Their lives have been ruined.The world is back to normal...but everyone is sick ?
Ok pal.....I give up.

He's blocked cunts. You're a fucking clueless idiot. Simple as that.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

I’ll try again…
The article you linked earlier in the thread, I can post it again if you’ve forgotten, came to this conclusion
Post-approval, the vaccine's safety continues to be monitored through various systems such as VAERS, the Vaccine Safety Datalink, and the CISA Project. These systems track adverse events and conduct ongoing studies to ensure long-term safety and effectiveness. The process also involves special initiatives in emergency situations, as seen with the COVID-19 pandemic and Operation Warp Speed, which accelerated vaccine development while maintaining safety standards.

Vaccine Development, Testing, and Regulation

Systems for developing and testing vaccines emerged after the 19th century, when many vaccines began to be used. The current system for developing, testing, and regulating vaccines developed during the 20th century as the groups involved standardized their procedures and regulations.

historyofvaccines.org

This suggests that the evidence you provided is happy that the Covid vaccine was safe, or have I and the author of that report got the wrong end of the stick?

Many of the vaccines you speak about . We're not vaccines!
The originating company registered them as Mrna products.
That's not a vaccine.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

He's blocked cunts. You're a fucking clueless idiot. Simple as that.

Good day to you sir.

 

[GornikDaze]

Many of the vaccines you speak about . We're not vaccines!
The originating company registered them as Mrna products.
That's not a vaccine.

We are not vaccines? What does that even mean?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Imagine still caring about all this.

 

[GornikDaze]

Many of the vaccines you speak about . We're not vaccines!
The originating company registered them as Mrna products.
That's not a vaccine.

Apologies I realise your we are vaccines comment was a typo :)
I wasn’t speaking about any vaccines btw I was replying to the link that @HaalandEffect provided in a previous post, so I’m not sure of the point you are trying to make?

 

[dennishasdoneit]

My eyesight was perfect before I had the last of the 3 jabs. My missus (who’s a nurse) said that it was just old age and nothing more. Just a coincidence. Boots the opticians said that I had been the 7th person to complain that week, after getting my last jab. I was always sceptical about what I was doing but did it for the wife. I’m a weak man. I remember a bloke at work who had the same jab on the same day as the missus. Both went off their feet less than a fortnight after with vertigo lasting a few days. Makes you wonder.

Yes ...it does make you wonder. Thanks for your honesty.
There must be many more folk weighing up weather to articulate their own experiences....not an easy thing to do with emotions running high.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

Imagine still caring about all this.

Whilst I’ll never be like those who said the dead were crisis actors or they just added Covid to every day deaths, the more I think back I have to conclude we were spun some form of shite. Something existed and it ripped through the world, but I look at some facebook memories from the time and wonder how we ever got to those depths, and how more didn’t comply.

If it happened again I think the majority would tell the powers that be to fuck off. I remember going for a pint and had to wear a mask at the bar. Then go back to my table and take it off whilst people crossed paths.

It was all very fucking bizarre.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

He deserves it after lying his fucking head off about me, he is a fucking crank

If I have " lied " about you..I apologise Kaz.
I would never, intentionally ,lie about another poster.....Anything I've said about you would only have been what I've read/ 're cycled from your numerous posts..over the years. You 've said a lot.i don't agree with your views on some issues, I've liked others..

Now ,pray tell, explain ..why I've lied my fucking head off about you?
That was never my intention, I can assure you.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Whilst I’ll never be like those who said the dead were crisis actors or they just added Covid to every day deaths, the more I think back I have to conclude we were spun some form of shite. Something existed and it ripped through the world, but I look at some facebook memories from the time and wonder how we ever got to those depths, and how more didn’t comply.

If it happened again I think the majority would tell the powers that be to fuck off. I remember going for a pint and had to wear a mask at the bar. Then go back to my table and take it off whilst people crossed paths.

It was all very fucking bizarre.

Yes .it was bizzare.
Wear a mask at the bar while you stood up.
But you were ok to sit down...and let the mask slip.convid didn't spread when you were sat down drinking apparently.
If you got up...to go to the toilet..you would have to put your mask back on.Not sure if you had to keep the mask on in the toilet....
But you had to have it on when you walked back to your seat.
And sat down. Then you could let it slip.to take a sip of beer.lol
Those were the convid rules,and everybody followed them. Didn't they...
Lol.

There were a lot of masks..
And a lot of money was made.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Whilst I’ll never be like those who said the dead were crisis actors or they just added Covid to every day deaths, the more I think back I have to conclude we were spun some form of shite. Something existed and it ripped through the world, but I look at some facebook memories from the time and wonder how we ever got to those depths, and how more didn’t comply.

If it happened again I think the majority would tell the powers that be to fuck off. I remember going for a pint and had to wear a mask at the bar. Then go back to my table and take it off whilst people crossed paths.

It was all very fucking bizarre.

We dealt with an unknown virus that fortunately became milder quite quickly. If it hadn’t, who knows how many would have died.

The next pandemic will be harder to control as it’ll be like herding cats. If it’s a more potent virus, then the number of deaths would be the only thing to make people comply.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

We dealt with an unknown virus that fortunately became milder quite quickly. If it hadn’t, who knows how many would have died.

The next pandemic will be harder to control as it’ll be like herding cats. If it’s a more potent virus, then the number of deaths would be the only thing to make people comply.

Unknown virus ?
What was operation Alice all about then on 15th Feb 2016 ?
Or exercise Alice ...I'm confused. Where world leaders sat down to talk about the response to a possible deadly coronovirus pandemic.
Plans were already in place.....surely .

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Unknown virus ?
What was operation Alice all about then on 15th Feb 2016 ?
Or exercise Alice ...I'm confused. Where world leaders sat down to talk about the response to a possible deadly coronovirus pandemic.
Plans were already in place.....surely .

Unknown insomuch as no one knew how deadly it was going to be.

The rest of it, I don’t care anymore. The vaccines might have caused 15 minute cities and cloud seeding, but I doubt it and don’t care if people think they did, so knock yourself out spouting shite.