oakiecokie
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I'm With Stupid said:
Don`t think the conditions warranted a "come back" especially from that type of injury.
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CSKA Moscow v City - Post match discussion
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Don`t think the conditions warranted a "come back" especially from that type of injury.
1961_vintage
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cleavers said:And the anti Dzeko fans too please.Ducado said:Right here is the serious bit
Can the Dzeko fan boys just give it rest please, or you will be going the way of the others!
Final Warning, we support City as a team and a club not just one player
lol - they're all naughty boys!
lust overlord
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Happy with 3 points but cska looked a poor side.
Defensively we weren't good and against better sides we would have been in trouble.
Garcia and Nastasic were all over the place as was Zaballeta.
Dzeko seems to have reverted back to the form of last season,ambling about,not closing down etc,the misses can be forgiven but the difference in attitude between him and Negredo is there for all to see.
A win away on a slow bobbly pitch is not to be sniffed at though.
Defensively we weren't good and against better sides we would have been in trouble.
Garcia and Nastasic were all over the place as was Zaballeta.
Dzeko seems to have reverted back to the form of last season,ambling about,not closing down etc,the misses can be forgiven but the difference in attitude between him and Negredo is there for all to see.
A win away on a slow bobbly pitch is not to be sniffed at though.
cleavers
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He was left in Manchester.I'm With Stupid said:I thought Demichelis was available now. How come he's not getting a game?
Rocket Sauce
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Great win tonight!!! I too, was concerned before kickoff when I saw Garcia on the team sheet. He did ok. He's not a centre half, so we have to keep that in mind when criticising.
If anyone should come in for criticism about it, it's Pellegrini. But...and this is the most important part...we got the 3 points.
Overall, no complaints from me as we got the job done. Bring on Chelsea!!!!
If anyone should come in for criticism about it, it's Pellegrini. But...and this is the most important part...we got the 3 points.
Overall, no complaints from me as we got the job done. Bring on Chelsea!!!!
Rocket Sauce said:Great win tonight!!! I too, was concerned before kickoff when I saw Garcia on the team sheet. He did ok. He's not a centre half, so we have to keep that in mind when criticising.If anyone should come in for criticism about it, it's Pellegrini. But...and this is the most important part...we got the 3 points.
Overall, no complaints from me as we got the job done. Bring on Chelsea!!!!
maybe those criticising him dont know this..;)
cleavers
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No its just f**king boring, they have a thread of their own, they should both keep it in there.1961_vintage said:cleavers said:And the anti Dzeko fans too please.Ducado said:Right here is the serious bit
Can the Dzeko fan boys just give it rest please, or you will be going the way of the others!
Final Warning, we support City as a team and a club not just one player
lol - they're all naughty boys!
jimharri
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Him and Neville are the best two pundits out there. Streets ahead of the tired old faces on MOTD and Soccer Saturday. Even Carragher isn't bad (if you can ignore that bloody accent).deano ou812 said:Always liked souness,he has tipped us to win the league,was sticking up for us when schiemichel was giving it sly digs before and at halftime...Gaylord du Bois said:In other news Souness is battering the rags on sky.
mike channon´s windmill
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Great result in difficult circumstances - we´re there now I think - could be Atleti in the last 16 - ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhmyyyyyyyyyyyyyygod!!!!
cleavers
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I wonder if some people commenting on our defenders really understand the reasons why we can look poor at the back, since Kolorov got some earlier in the thread.lust overlord said:Garcia and Nastasic were all over the place as was Zaballeta.
I thought Zaba and Kolorov did what they were asked to do, and that is attack, which I thought they both did well. Unfortunately this causes problems in behind, and the centre backs get exposed. I thought Nastasic for the most part was good, and carried Garcia at times, but they get caught because we don't have covering fullbacks much of the time. The person to blame for this is the manager, but that is how he wants us to play, and if it keeps us winning then its working I guess, but it makes life uncomfortable.
To be honest Garcia done better than any of us lot would have done.
Clearly he is not a defender, however he is not helped by speaking a different language than Nastasic and the subsequent chaos that causes. Of more concern to me was the fact that the manager did little to arrest our vulnerability to players running at us from deep.
It's so obvious that Garcia's stronger elements include his aerial strength, whilst Nastasic is more mobile. Seldom did I see Nastasic drop off and let Garcia challenge knowing that even if he missed Nastasic was there to cover. In short the play too flat and don't support each other. It seems the idea of playing a sweeper died with the onset of a defensive midfielder and that is fair enough. If however you play without a defensive midfielder one centre half must play deeper and in support of the other.
As this concept seems to have been forgotten by modern day centre halfs I think we really do need a defensive midfielder for away games like this.
Clearly he is not a defender, however he is not helped by speaking a different language than Nastasic and the subsequent chaos that causes. Of more concern to me was the fact that the manager did little to arrest our vulnerability to players running at us from deep.
It's so obvious that Garcia's stronger elements include his aerial strength, whilst Nastasic is more mobile. Seldom did I see Nastasic drop off and let Garcia challenge knowing that even if he missed Nastasic was there to cover. In short the play too flat and don't support each other. It seems the idea of playing a sweeper died with the onset of a defensive midfielder and that is fair enough. If however you play without a defensive midfielder one centre half must play deeper and in support of the other.
As this concept seems to have been forgotten by modern day centre halfs I think we really do need a defensive midfielder for away games like this.
baildon blue
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Your right about Soccer Saturday that is a really tired panel . Carragher is poor . I like watching Neville when we have stuffed his beloved Man United .jimharri said:Him and Neville are the best two pundits out there. Streets ahead of the tired old faces on MOTD and Soccer Saturday. Even Carragher isn't bad (if you can ignore that bloody accent).deano ou812 said:Always liked souness,he has tipped us to win the league,was sticking up for us when schiemichel was giving it sly digs before and at halftime...Gaylord du Bois said:In other news Souness is battering the rags on sky.
Ducado
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I am just happy for a decent enough win against tricky opposition on a crap pitch in the freezing cold, no injuries and two relativity easy games at home to see us into the next round
Agreed. We aren't set up to defend effectively. This might just be a matter of learning to balance attack and defense under a new manager, though.cleavers said:I wonder if some people commenting on our defenders really understand the reasons why we can look poor at the back, since Kolorov got some earlier in the thread.lust overlord said:Garcia and Nastasic were all over the place as was Zaballeta.
I thought Zaba and Kolorov did what they were asked to do, and that is attack, which I thought they both did well. Unfortunately this causes problems in behind, and the centre backs get exposed. I thought Nastasic for the most part was good, and carried Garcia at times, but they get caught because we don't have covering fullbacks much of the time. The person to blame for this is the manager, but that is how he wants us to play, and if it keeps us winning then its working I guess, but it makes life uncomfortable.
cleavers
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Oh and apart from a high bounce at times, I thought the pitch played pretty well, it didn't seem to bobble much to me, balls on the ground generally rolled flat until fairly late on. It certainly wasn't the injury risk many were claiming it would be.
Mr. Aguia
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AntiUnited said:@BluePhil8 said:AntiUnited said:and had 2 shocking passes to kun aswell lets not forget since we are all in this petty bitching party.
Does that make Dzeko's contribution any better?
na just making sure people dont forget it. kinda like how they will never let those 2 misses go till the end of fukin time. people are more worried about point scoring rather then celebrating the win. Since he came on nothing but bitching and moaning from supposed fans of the club slating one player relentlessly pathetic cant be used more then enough when it comes to some posters. and before he was on they where up javis ass (when he actually did a decent job considering the pitch and circumstances)
So it was just a coincidence that once Negredo came off we were unable to keep the ball? We dominated possession until he went off.
cleavers
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Possibly, but either way it makes for very exciting football, if its not necessarily the excitement we all want.taconinja said:Agreed. We aren't set up to defend effectively. This might just be a matter of learning to balance attack and defense under a new manager, though.
IcriedwhenTueartleft
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Great win but it was a funny match, we should have been out of sight before they had their late charge. We seemed to vanish in the last 10 minutes, got a bit sloppy all over the pitch emphasised by Zab's awful cross pitch mis-pass in the 90th minute, Nastasic's customary stupid foul on the byline a minute later and Edin's poor two misses near the end.
Still, we won and we won on a pitch that must have been sapping plus again we came from behind to win...another plus point. Those slagging off navas may have a point but he did a lot of very good tracking back in both halves and set up Negredo for that hand ball non-goal. That's two away CL wins on the bounce and some valuable ranking points are being built up so come on, enjoy the result.
Still, we won and we won on a pitch that must have been sapping plus again we came from behind to win...another plus point. Those slagging off navas may have a point but he did a lot of very good tracking back in both halves and set up Negredo for that hand ball non-goal. That's two away CL wins on the bounce and some valuable ranking points are being built up so come on, enjoy the result.
S04
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Would have taken a draw before the game..Happy about this!