CSKA Moscow v City - Pre match discussion

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Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

blue b4 the moon said:
If the game gets moved City (I know its not there fault) should cover the extra expense for travelling fans as a good will gesture failing that I would maybe pay a 'small surcharge' to cover it on next years S/C.

UEFA should withhold some of CSKA's prize money to cover any such costs, whether for City fans or fans of the other teams who have to go there, they've known about the closure of the main stadiums in Moscow for long enough to avoid this shambles.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

Absolute fucking shambles, how can you sort out anything resembling travel with this uncertainty? Might be in Moscow, might be in St Petersburg, might be on the fucking moon
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

Granted that England is smaller than Russia, but you couldn't envisage this sort of situation arising here (i.e. the game being played hundreds of miles away from where it should be played). Makes it all the more infuriating that we lost the 2018 World Cup to Russia if this is indicative of how problems are tackled. I'm not giving up hope just yet because it's virtually a month until City go out there.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

John Wayne said:
Granted that England is smaller than Russia, but you couldn't envisage this sort of situation arising here (i.e. the game being played hundreds of miles away from where it should be played). Makes it all the more infuriating that we lost the 2018 World Cup to Russia if this is indicative of how problems are tackled. I'm not giving up hope just yet because it's virtually a month until City go out there.
I suppose Streymur fans couldn't believe that we had moved our game to make way for a concert - but there you go. If the game gets moved out of Moscow, my flights - due to the timings and hotel (both non-refundable) are useless. Luckily I've not sent off my visa application off yet. I'll give it another week before deciding if I should chance wasting another 120 quid.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

M18SK13 said:
John Wayne said:
Granted that England is smaller than Russia, but you couldn't envisage this sort of situation arising here (i.e. the game being played hundreds of miles away from where it should be played). Makes it all the more infuriating that we lost the 2018 World Cup to Russia if this is indicative of how problems are tackled. I'm not giving up hope just yet because it's virtually a month until City go out there.
I suppose Streymur fans couldn't believe that we had moved our game to make way for a concert - but there you go. If the game gets moved out of Moscow, my flights - due to the timings and hotel (both non-refundable) are useless. Luckily I've not sent off my visa application off yet. I'll give it another week before deciding if I should chance wasting another 120 quid.

Same im going to wait now, just have to lose £150 worth of flights
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

The worrying thing for those going is that they have moved the game 450 miles away at only six days notice (which means they could do the same for our game).
It would be an absolute nightmare for those who already booked flights and hotels in Moscow, not to mention the expense involved.

Probably ok if you are on the Thomas Cook trip but those who have booked independently could be really screwed.

Not an expert but would this also invalidate the visa's as they are based on an invitation from the hotel.

City / The FA / UEFA or whoever need to get this sorted soon !
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

M18SK13 said:
John Wayne said:
Granted that England is smaller than Russia, but you couldn't envisage this sort of situation arising here (i.e. the game being played hundreds of miles away from where it should be played). Makes it all the more infuriating that we lost the 2018 World Cup to Russia if this is indicative of how problems are tackled. I'm not giving up hope just yet because it's virtually a month until City go out there.
I suppose Streymur fans couldn't believe that we had moved our game to make way for a concert - but there you go. If the game gets moved out of Moscow, my flights - due to the timings and hotel (both non-refundable) are useless. Luckily I've not sent off my visa application off yet. I'll give it another week before deciding if I should chance wasting another 120 quid.

Different circumstances with the Streymur game. It was well out of what you would call the 'normal' season and was dealt with a lot better.

Whatever happens, I intend to go to Moscow for the experience. I've spent too much already just to abandon the trip. It'll be an expensive city break but one for the memory bank.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

M18SK13 said:
John Wayne said:
Granted that England is smaller than Russia, but you couldn't envisage this sort of situation arising here (i.e. the game being played hundreds of miles away from where it should be played). Makes it all the more infuriating that we lost the 2018 World Cup to Russia if this is indicative of how problems are tackled. I'm not giving up hope just yet because it's virtually a month until City go out there.
I suppose Streymur fans couldn't believe that we had moved our game to make way for a concert - but there you go. If the game gets moved out of Moscow, my flights - due to the timings and hotel (both non-refundable) are useless. Luckily I've not sent off my visa application off yet. I'll give it another week before deciding if I should chance wasting another 120 quid.

But it was always going to be the case once we found out in May that we were in the UEFA Cup. We didn't change the venue a month before the game.

-- Thu Sep 26, 2013 9:10 pm --

It looks like it's due to pitch problems, which MAY be resolved in a month if they relay a new pitch or something.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/sports/cska-moscow-s-champions-league-match-moved-to-st-petersburg-because-of-poor-pitch-condition-1.639473" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/sports/ ... n-1.639473</a>

MOSCOW - CSKA Moscow says its Champions League match against Viktoria Plzen will be played in St. Petersburg because of poor pitch conditions at its stadium in Moscow's suburbs.The Group D match was set to be played at Arena Khimki on Wednesday, but heavy rains in the Moscow region in the past two weeks have ruined the pitch there.The UEFA inspection team on Wednesday said the pitch to be unfit for the game. CSKA said in a statement Thursday that of all the suggested alternative stadiums, the UEFA representatives picked Petrovsky stadium in St. Petersburg.Zenit St. Petersburg will host Austria Vienna in a Group G match at the same stadium a day earlier. - See more at: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/sports/cska-moscow-s-champions-league-match-moved-to-st-petersburg-because-of-poor-pitch-condition-1.639473#sthash.DEmGKJnb.dpuf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.nanaimodailynews.com/sports/ ... GKJnb.dpuf</a>

Sounds promising. Basically the pitch is waterlogged and is probably fecked. They might be able to re-lay the pitch if needs be in time for our game, or do some work on it to improve it. If the pitch is beyond repair this early in the season, they will have to re-lay it, which should be done sooner rather than later.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

one has to wonder how fucking useless are our football executives.

they are beyond useless, always were, always will be.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

Колобок said:
one has to wonder how fucking useless are our football executives.

they are beyond useless, always were, always will be.

What they saying over in Russia mate? Might have to be a long journey on our bus ha
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

greenie said:
What they saying over in Russia mate? Might have to be a long journey on our bus ha

everybody is confused, things may change every second. UEFA aren't too helpful as well. having been given various possibilities, they chose the Petrovsky; while St. Pete is a half decent choice in terms of travel, two CL games in two days might very well render another pitch FUBAR.

well, if the game ends up in St. Petersburg eventually, i sure can organize a bus or train trip from Moscow for those who decide to go after all, if there's interest.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

Well this could become an epic trip.

8 hours by train - how long by bus?

If we catch an internal flight is the visa going to be an issue?
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

goatfood said:
Well this could become an epic trip.

8 hours by train - how long by bus?

If we catch an internal flight is the visa going to be an issue?

there's an express train that goes as quick as 4,5 hrs, but it is costly - 46 to 64 quid one-way.

the bus trip may take up to 10 hours, but costs only 16-20 quid. maybe if there's enough interest we could hire a bus for ourselves, i have to explore how costly it may be.

i don't think there are going to be any visa issues with the flight, economy class one way goes from 60 quid up, but i'd recommend against it, because you'll waste a lot of time in airports and getting to/from them. going by express train may end up quicker and more comfortable.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

[quote="Колобок
the bus trip may take up to 10 hours, but costs only 16-20 quid. maybe if there's enough interest we could hire a bus for ourselves, i have to explore how costly it may be.
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Sounds like a plan. hHowever 10 hours on a bus with the Squirtyflower clan and De Niro..... not sure my liver will survive!!!!!
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

You can go anywhere in Russia and If you stay more than 3 days in Russia, you need to register your visa. Hotel in Moscow and SPS will do for you and travel agency can do as well.
If you plan to go by train, I would recommend to book before you go. You may not find ticket and if you can buy one it will be nearly double price.
Bus or flight could be better plan when you cannot book train.

I still confuse, Khimki can be the option or not if it fit to play. October is starting to snow but no heavy raining anymore.
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

Well i have flights (check), hotel (check), visa including all that postal order stuff (check), and now match tickets (check) for me and my mrs. Never imagined I would need to get a tick for the arena too. I have too much invested in non refundables so whatever happens its a holiday in Moscow. If the worst happens I hope they have a big screen TV in a pub !!!!!
 
Re: CSKA Moscow v City (Wednesday 23 October)

I start to think bus to SPS is the best option. Flight and train will be full with CSKA supporters and they will start to book ahead of match day.
And I think CSKA will try their best to have the match against us at Khimki.
I also hope there would be announcement from City soon.
 
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