Pigeonho said:You just said its the fault of corrupt officials!!! I created a thread saying what this poster said, about the manger, and got absolutely fucking HAMMERED for it! This fucking place.blueinsa said:Juan King said:Every time a result doesn't go our way, the usual crackpots come on here posting the same shite. The same players get singled out & apparently even the manager, who won two trophies last season, is now not good enough either!
We were poor second half, but it happens. To suggest we need to change the manager & ship out some of our best players is ridiculous. Even most of the favourites on here were poor too, should we ship them all out?
Post of the thread.
We are, or at least I am, talking about champions league record/performance. In that regard, PSG has done well compared to us, without dominating Europe the likes of bayern Barca and real have done for many years.Pigeonho said:I can't pretend to know what their domestic record has been since their investment, but does it better ours?jared said:Pigeonho said:Thsts why its not frightening. The first 3 have been doing it for decades. It doesn't just happen overnight, you have to work at it and earn it. Our players need to get thst into their heads.
PSG have done better than us since their sugar daddy invested heavily. Our investment in comparison hasn't paid off
Convinced it's entirely mental. Why don't we have problems in the Premiership? Ajax, CSKA atc are weaker than most Premiership teams and we handle Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool etc.hgblue said:Mister Appointment said:hgblue said:Maybe, just maybe, we should change tactics for European games?
IMO that isn't the only reason we didn't win tonight and it isn't even the biggest reason we didn't win.
So on we go doing the same thing expecting different results.....
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:inchy14 said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:the ref made one poor decision..one...we got a soft pen on saturday.
pellegrini is getting the grief cos he simply refuses to change tactics.stubborn beyond belief.
we will not progress in europe..i truly believe we have regressed this season i n europe.
One poor decision? You on drugs mate? Not see the one on Dzeko which would have made it 3-0? That was the more important incorrect decision.
Not excusing the second half performance but that was the real turning point.
Was our second goal not offside?
inchy14 said:St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:the ref made one poor decision..one...we got a soft pen on saturday.bluemonkey71 said:Not sure why Pellegrini is getting all the grief. The players looked knackered in the second half. Dino looked awful when he came on and we just kept hacking the ball out with no composure whatsoever. We should have sewn that game up.
Kolarov and Yaya had a shocker for me and the ref was a joke.
pellegrini is getting the grief cos he simply refuses to change tactics.stubborn beyond belief.
we will not progress in europe..i truly believe we have regressed this season i n europe.
One poor decision? You on drugs mate? Not see the one on Dzeko which would have made it 3-0? That was the more important incorrect decision.
Not excusing the second half performance but that was the real turning point.
Pigeonho said:Maybe it is an actual club thing, as stupid and far fetched as that sounds. I've heard before how we seem to just not believe in ourselves in the competition. It csmt be the players because we have world cups winners amongst us and players who have played for some huge clubs. It feels like a curse in thst sense, like we just don't believe. Thst of course has to be bollocks though.LoveCity said:Pigeonho said:Thsts why its not frightening. The first 3 have been doing it for decades. It doesn't just happen overnight, you have to work at it and earn it. Our players need to get thst into their heads.
I disagree. It happened almost overnight with Atletico and Dortmund. They just sprang to life quickly and challenged for the trophy. No reason we should not be challenging, except... well, I question the players more than the manager. There is a collective lack of hunger that has spanned two completely different regimes (authoritarian Mancini and loveable Pellegrini).
Two things Atletico and Dortmund had in common despite playing totally different styles: they were fearless and got in the face of any team, no matter what their standing and reputation.