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leighton said:
The cookie monster said:
leighton said:
They tested Camelot over every distance and ground this season. You have to take your hat off to Coolmore for testing this horse in that way. Look how long it took for Frankel to move up in distance and compare that to Camelot they took the risks but it didnt work out. Next season Camelot could well go unbeaten next year as they wont test him as much as they did this season.

Still amazed he run the horse,after stating several times he hates the ground
What was more amazing was he said its the best horse he as ever trained by a long way
Am not having that mate.

I dont know mate. O Brien has trained some wonder horses but this season the ground has been the worst ground for years. It would be so unlike O Brien to big up a horse as much when you see the horses before him that he has trained from George Washington , Yeats , Galileo , Rock Of Gibraltor , High Chaparral and Rip Van Winkle he really must think a hell of a lot of this horse. Even yesterday the horse lost a shoe and got cut in the race in running. I wouldnt mind seeing it run on its ideal ground all the time but this is horse racing and its great to see horses being tested to there limits.

Sorry Leighton but I can't agree with this at all.
If a horse hates cut in the ground,and the trainer knows that,then you are gaining nothing by running him on glue.
It simply isn't fair on the horse,the connections,or the punters,and any formlines that come out of such races are meaningless.
Running any horse on unsuitable ground or over the wrong distance is just daft,if you know it's unsuitable already.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
leighton said:
The cookie monster said:
Still amazed he run the horse,after stating several times he hates the ground
What was more amazing was he said its the best horse he as ever trained by a long way
Am not having that mate.

I dont know mate. O Brien has trained some wonder horses but this season the ground has been the worst ground for years. It would be so unlike O Brien to big up a horse as much when you see the horses before him that he has trained from George Washington , Yeats , Galileo , Rock Of Gibraltor , High Chaparral and Rip Van Winkle he really must think a hell of a lot of this horse. Even yesterday the horse lost a shoe and got cut in the race in running. I wouldnt mind seeing it run on its ideal ground all the time but this is horse racing and its great to see horses being tested to there limits.

Sorry Leighton but I can't agree with this at all.
If a horse hates cut in the ground,and the trainer knows that,then you are gaining nothing by running him on glue.
It simply isn't fair on the horse,the connections,or the punters,and any formlines that come out of such races are meaningless.
Running any horse on unsuitable ground or over the wrong distance is just daft,if you know it's unsuitable already.

The conections must of been happy with it. Camelot won on testing ground in the Ireland earlier in the season so maybe they thought that he could do the same yesterday. Smith was giving it the large one after the Derby saying the Leger is the next race for him no matter what.
 
leighton said:
They tested Camelot over every distance and ground this season. You have to take your hat off to Coolmore for testing this horse in that way. Look how long it took for Frankel to move up in distance and compare that to Camelot they took the risks but it didnt work out. Next season Camelot could well go unbeaten next year as they wont test him as much as they did this season.
This has nothing to do with Frankel. Get the impression you have a chip on your shoulder about Frankel.
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
beyondanytherapy said:
Thanks for fuck all BWTAC

Wow chill the fuck out mate.
Folk post in good faith on here,and don't get dragged over the coals when they get it wrong.
Or were you really going to lump on that 33/1 shot if BWTAC hadn't put you off it?
His user name somes him up mate..
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
beyondanytherapy said:
Thanks for fuck all BWTAC

Wow chill the fuck out mate.
Folk post in good faith on here,and don't get dragged over the coals when they get it wrong.
Or were you really going to lump on that 33/1 shot if BWTAC hadn't put you off it?

Couldn't agree more NF, from that reation you'd have thought BAT had put a Kings ransom on it.
 
welcometomanchester said:
leighton said:
They tested Camelot over every distance and ground this season. You have to take your hat off to Coolmore for testing this horse in that way. Look how long it took for Frankel to move up in distance and compare that to Camelot they took the risks but it didnt work out. Next season Camelot could well go unbeaten next year as they wont test him as much as they did this season.
This has nothing to do with Frankel. Get the impression you have a chip on your shoulder about Frankel.

No chip on my shoulder about Frankel. I just would of loved to see Frankel tested more than he was over a longer distances as well as just 1 mile.
 
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leighton said:
welcometomanchester said:
leighton said:
They tested Camelot over every distance and ground this season. You have to take your hat off to Coolmore for testing this horse in that way. Look how long it took for Frankel to move up in distance and compare that to Camelot they took the risks but it didnt work out. Next season Camelot could well go unbeaten next year as they wont test him as much as they did this season.
This has nothing to do with Frankel. Get the impression you have a chip on your shoulder about Frankel.

No chip on my shoulder about Frankel. I just would of loved to see Frankel tested more than he was over a longer distances as well as just 1 mile.
Was watching the racing channel on sunday,they were convinced if frankel had of run in the arc he would of still gone off at 1/8....
 

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