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The royal family, as presented in the media, especially in papers like the Mail has a certain image that is designed to appeal to conservative, middle-class traditionalists. White weddings. Uniforms. Cute children. Formality, curtseying and 'graciousness'.

Anything that brings that (false) image into question is akin to heresy. It must either be ignored, covered up or denounced, as it damages the false consciousness. The fairy story that so many people love.

Hence the furore about Harry. Who, in my opinion, has issues and clings to his wife as though she were a life raft in a stormy sea. The problem is not actually what he says, or whether it is true or not, the problem is he is spoiling the fantasy world that so many 'royalists' want to believe in.
 
BrianW said:
The royal family, as presented in the media, especially in papers like the Mail has a certain image that is designed to appeal to conservative, middle-class traditionalists. White weddings. Uniforms. Cute children. Formality, curtseying and 'graciousness'.

Anything that brings that (false) image into question is akin to heresy. It must either be ignored, covered up or denounced, as it damages the false consciousness. The fairy story that so many people love.

Hence the furore about Harry. Who, in my opinion, has issues and clings to his wife as though she were a life raft in a stormy sea. The problem is not actually what he says, or whether it is true or not, the problem is he is spoiling the fantasy world that so many 'royalists' want to believe in.
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These are surely troubling times for that section of society.
The great ‘re-englandisation’ (clumsy- I know) of brexit has failed to materialise and in fact has actually harmed the country.
Now we have those guardians of all things British, those bastions of a way of life, turning out to have , albeit well shod, feet of clay.
A lot of the certainties of life have evaporated before their very eyes.
Without the crutch that is the daily mail, I suspect some of them would despair.
 
www.private-eye.co.uk

Private Eye | Church of England : Arch foes

THERE was no white smoke above Lambeth Palace, no cheering crowds, no balcony appearance, and no shout of
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This PE piece touches on a really unnerving part of the new RW media, which is how they can use alternative forms of media.

For example, they can build an audience playing just the right line of legal regulations, and then say stuff like this in a podcast that they'll push all their viewers to listen to.

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It also has the disturbing fact in there that GB News has eclipsed Sky News for evening viewership.
 
BrianW said:
The royal family, as presented in the media, especially in papers like the Mail has a certain image that is designed to appeal to conservative, middle-class traditionalists. White weddings. Uniforms. Cute children. Formality, curtseying and 'graciousness'.
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Yeah but in my 60+ years on this planet this whole attitude in wider society - by which I mean outside the press outside privately educated people and those who attended red brick Uni's - has diminished massively. People have long since gone beyond being embarrassed by divorce, gay children and relatives, family members marring people from other ethnic backgrounds or religions - outside certain environs who make money whipping up hatred for money thats just the real world. A neighbours son is gay and has married a Jewish lad and they are looking to adopt - the real interest on the street when he visits is " whats it like living with a Tesla"
 
bluethrunthru said:
Yeah but in my 60+ years on this planet this whole attitude in wider society - by which I mean outside the press outside privately educated people and those who attended red brick Uni's - has diminished massively. People have long since gone beyond being embarrassed by divorce, gay children and relatives, family members marring people from other ethnic backgrounds or religions - outside certain environs who make money whipping up hatred for money thats just the real world. A neighbours son is gay and has married a Jewish lad and they are looking to adopt - the real interest on the street when he visits is " whats it like living with a Tesla"
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And yet according to some people society has gotten worse.
 
mexico1970 said:
And yet according to some people society has gotten worse.
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That'll be the folk who listen to " send the buggers back" daily lol

Oh and they also froth at the mouth about gay people and unisex bogs though they have never actually used one.

That fucking Mick Lynch though................................................................................
 
BrianW said:
If you read the Daily Mail you could be forgiven for thinking the main problems with the country are:

1. Meghan Markle
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Amazing isn't it. A young woman who has committed no crimes, had the audacity to marry a British royal person and is mixed race is apparently a bigger problem (and has engendered more hate by prominent voices) to Britain than Vladimir Putin.
 
Bill Walker said:
Amazing isn't it. A young woman who has committed no crimes, had the audacity to marry a British royal person and is mixed race is apparently a bigger problem (and has engendered more hate by prominent voices) to Britain than Vladimir Putin.
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Not sure we're quite there yet mate. Currently throwing a lot more money and military support at dealing with Putin than we are at Meghan;-)
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Not sure we're quite there yet mate. Currently throwing a lot more money and military support at dealing with Putin than we are at Meghan;-)
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I glance at the daily hate front page and see 8 or 9 stories about H&M.
Much more than Putin
And it's been like that for weeks. Magazine covers, tv, papers like the Sun, Express, telegraph.
The media is obsessed with hate for the two of them.
Articles by people like Clarkson professing hate for Meghan, Morgan, Farage, Wooten.
It's fucking shameful.
 
Bill Walker said:
I glance at the daily hate front page and see 8 or 9 stories about H&M.
Much more than Putin
And it's been like that for weeks. Magazine covers, tv, papers like the Sun, Express, telegraph.
The media is obsessed with hate for the two of them.
Articles by people like Clarkson professing hate for Meghan, Morgan, Farage, Wooten.
It's fucking shameful.
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Its as if in WW2 the press instead of focussing its ire on Hitler went after Wallis Simpson instead lol
 
Saddleworth2 said:
You are mixing with the wrong people then mate.
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I walked away from one former friend because my wife and I had grown more and more sick of their ingrained and persistent ignorant racism. It got too much, even though I am not obsessively PC. There are limits.

But guess what? No one is an island. We have to live with the people around us. It's often stated that people become 'more conservative' as they age. While not a universal truth (I am the direct opposite) in general there is a lot of truth in it. That is pretty much another way of saying what I said, but arguably with a nicer gloss. I find a lot of my generation simply do not have open minds. You may not agree. That's fine. I am not head of a Church, laying out a doctrine that people must follow or burn in hell.
 
BrianW said:
I walked away from one former friend because my wife and I had grown more and more sick of their ingrained and persistent ignorant racism. It got too much, even though I am not obsessively PC. There are limits.

But guess what? No one is an island. We have to live with the people around us. It's often stated that people become 'more conservative' as they age. While not a universal truth (I am the direct opposite) in general there is a lot of truth in it. That is pretty much another way of saying what I said, but arguably with a nicer gloss. I find a lot of my generation simply do not have open minds. You may not agree. That's fine. I am not head of a Church, laying out a doctrine that people must follow or burn in hell.
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I don't blame you mate. I would do the same if faced with racism. Its just I haven't experienced it and don't believe that age is a factor in a reduced critical thinking or acceptance of change.
 
Bill Walker said:
I glance at the daily hate front page and see 8 or 9 stories about H&M.
Much more than Putin
And it's been like that for weeks. Magazine covers, tv, papers like the Sun, Express, telegraph.
The media is obsessed with hate for the two of them.
Articles by people like Clarkson professing hate for Meghan, Morgan, Farage, Wooten.
It's fucking shameful.
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Sadly it's also probably a reflection of the intended audience. Printed media as a news source is dying so they can't afford to print shit that doesn't sell. I think there is a bit of Ukraine fatigue with the media in general now unless something spectacular happens. Your ideal media war is something like the first gulf war - not very long, with plenty of footage of stuff going bang. Ukraine is a bit slow and muddy, and the penny is dropping that it's likely to last a while.
 
whatever you do don't go to the Mail for music news - Bonnie Rait is unknown it seems - what you get for having a 20 year old intern working nights and a 23 year old sub editor signing stories off - I mean Bonnie Rait unknown lol

 
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