Dangerous Dogs

TonyM said:
I think this debate could be happening some time in the future with relation to robots. The value they could give could be enormous and they could be part of the family (just like dogs today). But if there were some that caused harm would the right thing to do be to take them all away or just the model that's statistically more dangerous or just the individuals that caused the harm. They wouldn't be human but would they deserve to be treated as individuals.

And would the owners be responsible (asuming that these robots have a future equivalent of a leash or muzel, e.g. an off button)?

I'm not sure if this makes sense but anyway...

Could some scrotes be taking over the park with their Bully XL future equivalent?
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Just take the batteries out.
 
This debate is so frustrating because no one has managed to put up any reasonable counterargument for banning these dogs yet it's still not happening. Meanwhile people are dying regularly.
 
domalino said:
This debate is so frustrating because no one has managed to put up any reasonable counterargument for banning these dogs yet it's still not happening. Meanwhile people are dying regularly.
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I guess it's quite difficult to ban a breed where there is no real exact breed standard.
 
Donmcfc said:
In your situation I would be very tempted to contact the RSPCA. I'm not sure that they could do anything but this is a disaster waiting to happen.
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The RSPCA are not a government agency or an NGO contracted to provide services and have no statutory powers.

In the vast majority of cases they use persuasion, guilt tripping and people's ignorance of the law (aided by dressing up like police officers) to get people to voluntarily hand over animals.

They have no powers of entry, arrest or seizure.

Unless invited they can only enter your property with a warrant and the police would be in attendance.

They can pursue private pursue investigations and prosecutions but so can every member of the public.

So you're right nothing will happen.
 
I can’t handle dog shit, as simple a reason why I’ve never owned one other than my Greyhound Rathlure Steamer who won many races at Belle Vue from around 89-91.
 
domalino said:
This debate is so frustrating because no one has managed to put up any reasonable counterargument for banning these dogs yet it's still not happening. Meanwhile people are dying regularly.
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Ban the lot of them I say
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Ban all molossers?
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Nah. Just ban all working breeds, saves time when the scrotes inevitably move onto herding breeds like GSDs, Malinois, Komondors, Kangals and other working breeds like Huskies, Chows, Newfoundlands, Dobermans and Labradors.

Especially Labs, once they move onto those every single attack will be fatal. People don't realise the destructive potential of that breed, pound for pound the strongest breed I've seen (and they're not exactly small), bite harder than pitbulls, incredible energy levels and can be trained for anything. Average adult won't stand a chance.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
One solution but a bit rough on some molosser breeds such as the Great Dane and Bulldog.
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The Great Dane is in terminal decline (855 puppies registered last year), and is too big for most people's homes. It will become even rarer without a ban, so not a big issue.

The bulldog is now a freak and dangerously inbred, it would be kinder on the animals if they weren't allowed to carry on their lineage.
 
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Mr Kobayashi said:
The Great Dane is in terminal decline (855 puppies registered last year), and is too big for most people's homes. It will become even without a ban, so not a big issue.

The bulldog is now a freak and dangerously inbred, it would be kinder on the animals if they weren't allowed to carry on their lineage.
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If they decline naturally (as you predict with the Great Dane), then that is fair enough. I wouldn't be in favour of a blanket ban that would include dogs that don't really cause a problem. I'd say a Spaniel or Labrador is a bigger threat than a bulldog and a German Shepherd more so than a Great Dane.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Nah. Just ban all working breeds, saves time when the scrotes inevitably move onto herding breeds like GSDs, Malinois, Komondors, Kangals and other working breeds like Huskies, Chows, Newfoundlands, Dobermans and Labradors.

Especially Labs, once they move onto those every single attack will be fatal. People don't realise the destructive potential of that breed, pound for pound the strongest breed I've seen (and they're not exactly small), bite harder than pitbulls, incredible energy levels and can be trained for anything. Average adult won't stand a chance.
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The majority of English bulldog breeding bitches are unable to give birth naturally, bulldogs shouldn't exist anymore unless bred outwards to produce a viable standard that can.
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
The majority of English bulldog breeding bitches are unable to give birth naturally, bulldogs shouldn't exist anymore unless bred outwards to produce a viable standard that can.
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I kind of agree there, and I say that with a very heavy heart mate, as I’ve mentioned, I often have my daughters, and she is such a wonderful dog, but it’s terrible to hear her trying to breath, most of their temperaments (the dogs I’ve met) are absolutely spot on, but physically, the regression from what once was a very capable dog to now is remarkable.
 
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