De Bruyne?

aguerooo93 said:
sam-caddick said:
aguerooo93 said:
De Bruyne is a good player but not the kind of world-class signing we need this summer. We can't repeat the same mistakes made in previous windows where we buy players who add to our squad but don't elevate our team to the next level like Pogba, Bale or Koke could.

I disagree, De Bruyne's delivery into the box is definitely world class and he has over 20 assists to prove so.

His all round game and work rate needs to improve but in one or two years time he will definitely be world class.

Koke or Pogba are central midfielders anyway, De Bruyne is an attacker.

Forget Bale, he will be at Madrid next season because he is a Perez favourite, plus even if he was to go he would be rag bound.

We wouldn't pay 80m-100m for him when we need to rebuild the bigger picture.

De Bruyne's delivery is excellent but 20 assists in one season in the Bundesliga is not enough to show that he can be a star player in a team that wants to win not only the title but progress to the final few teams in the CL.

Reus is world-class and could be available particularly now Klopp is leaving. Sterling is also a better bet than De Bruyne because he's already got more flair and speed than him even though he's three and a half years younger.
This season De Bruyne has over twice the amount of goals than sterling and over 3x the amount of assists. He was also key to them beating bayern 4-1 whereas sterling chooses to go missing in big games but then again why let a small matter of facts get in the way of a good story lets go for that massively overrated lad just because he's English.
 
thesilvalining said:
aguerooo93 said:
sam-caddick said:
I disagree, De Bruyne's delivery into the box is definitely world class and he has over 20 assists to prove so.

His all round game and work rate needs to improve but in one or two years time he will definitely be world class.

Koke or Pogba are central midfielders anyway, De Bruyne is an attacker.

Forget Bale, he will be at Madrid next season because he is a Perez favourite, plus even if he was to go he would be rag bound.

We wouldn't pay 80m-100m for him when we need to rebuild the bigger picture.

De Bruyne's delivery is excellent but 20 assists in one season in the Bundesliga is not enough to show that he can be a star player in a team that wants to win not only the title but progress to the final few teams in the CL.

Reus is world-class and could be available particularly now Klopp is leaving. Sterling is also a better bet than De Bruyne because he's already got more flair and speed than him even though he's three and a half years younger.
This season De Bruyne has over twice the amount of goals than sterling and over 3x the amount of assists. He was also key to them beating bayern 4-1 whereas sterling chooses to go missing in big games but then again why let a small matter of facts get in the way of a good story lets go for that massively overrated lad just because he's English.

Where are you getting these stats???

De Bruyne in 30 league appearances this season, has scored 10 goals and made 18 assists.
Sterling in 31 league appearances this season, has scored 7 goals and made 7 assists.

Yeah De Bruyne's assists are significantly better and his goal record is slightly better but that's in a second-place team in the Bundesliga as opposed to a fifth-place team in the Premier League. Also, Sterling's lack of assists isn't necessarily indicative of his failings but Liverpool's lack of a consistent goalscoring striker (Sturridge has had a long-term injury and Balotelli/Lambert/Borini haven't performed).

All things considered, De Bruyne's record is a bit better than Sterling's this season. But the season before Sterling scored and assisted more. Remembering again that Sterling is 20 while De Bruyne turns 24 in a month, it's pretty obvious on net who's the better signing.
 
aguerooo93 said:
thesilvalining said:
aguerooo93 said:
De Bruyne's delivery is excellent but 20 assists in one season in the Bundesliga is not enough to show that he can be a star player in a team that wants to win not only the title but progress to the final few teams in the CL.

Reus is world-class and could be available particularly now Klopp is leaving. Sterling is also a better bet than De Bruyne because he's already got more flair and speed than him even though he's three and a half years younger.
This season De Bruyne has over twice the amount of goals than sterling and over 3x the amount of assists. He was also key to them beating bayern 4-1 whereas sterling chooses to go missing in big games but then again why let a small matter of facts get in the way of a good story lets go for that massively overrated lad just because he's English.

Where are you getting these stats???

De Bruyne in 30 league appearances this season, has scored 10 goals and made 18 assists.
Sterling in 31 league appearances this season, has scored 7 goals and made 7 assists.

Yeah De Bruyne's assists are significantly better and his goal record is slightly better but that's in a second-place team in the Bundesliga as opposed to a fifth-place team in the Premier League. Also, Sterling's lack of assists isn't necessarily indicative of his failings but Liverpool's lack of a consistent goalscoring striker (Sturridge has had a long-term injury and Balotelli/Lambert/Borini haven't performed).

All things considered, De Bruyne's record is a bit better than Sterling's this season. But the season before Sterling scored and assisted more. Remembering again that Sterling is 20 while De Bruyne turns 24 in a month, it's pretty obvious on net who's the better signing.

And Sterling is English too.
 
aguerooo93 said:
thesilvalining said:
aguerooo93 said:
De Bruyne's delivery is excellent but 20 assists in one season in the Bundesliga is not enough to show that he can be a star player in a team that wants to win not only the title but progress to the final few teams in the CL.

Reus is world-class and could be available particularly now Klopp is leaving. Sterling is also a better bet than De Bruyne because he's already got more flair and speed than him even though he's three and a half years younger.
This season De Bruyne has over twice the amount of goals than sterling and over 3x the amount of assists. He was also key to them beating bayern 4-1 whereas sterling chooses to go missing in big games but then again why let a small matter of facts get in the way of a good story lets go for that massively overrated lad just because he's English.

Where are you getting these stats???

De Bruyne in 30 league appearances this season, has scored 10 goals and made 18 assists.
Sterling in 31 league appearances this season, has scored 7 goals and made 7 assists.

Yeah De Bruyne's assists are significantly better and his goal record is slightly better but that's in a second-place team in the Bundesliga as opposed to a fifth-place team in the Premier League. Also, Sterling's lack of assists isn't necessarily indicative of his failings but Liverpool's lack of a consistent goalscoring striker (Sturridge has had a long-term injury and Balotelli/Lambert/Borini haven't performed).

All things considered, De Bruyne's record is a bit better than Sterling's this season. But the season before Sterling scored and assisted more. Remembering again that Sterling is 20 while De Bruyne turns 24 in a month, it's pretty obvious on net who's the better signing.
Whoscored.com , strangely enough these players play some games in other competitions than the league, and de Bruyne has 15 goals and 22 assists in 41 games whilst sterling has 7 goals and 7 assists in 40 games. Just to let you know half the time de Bruyne is supplying for nicklas bendtner and the other half for bas dost ( played 25 & 26 games) so he's hardly supplying for world class strikers himself. Sterling scores or assists on average every 2.86 games which a direct winger like him is pretty average (similar to yannick bolasies record at this)whereas de Bruyne scores or assists every 1.1 games which is much higher. Few other players average per game to put sterling record into perspective for you-
John Walters 2
Erik lamela 3.3
Falcao( a striker of course but he's been a laughing stock this season) 2
Stewart Downing 2.56

And to put de Bruyne into perspective:
Eden hazard 1.43
Sergio aguero 1.03
Gareth bale 1.45
Alexis Sanchez 1.23
 
thesilvalining said:
aguerooo93 said:
thesilvalining said:
This season De Bruyne has over twice the amount of goals than sterling and over 3x the amount of assists. He was also key to them beating bayern 4-1 whereas sterling chooses to go missing in big games but then again why let a small matter of facts get in the way of a good story lets go for that massively overrated lad just because he's English.

Where are you getting these stats???

De Bruyne in 30 league appearances this season, has scored 10 goals and made 18 assists.
Sterling in 31 league appearances this season, has scored 7 goals and made 7 assists.

Yeah De Bruyne's assists are significantly better and his goal record is slightly better but that's in a second-place team in the Bundesliga as opposed to a fifth-place team in the Premier League. Also, Sterling's lack of assists isn't necessarily indicative of his failings but Liverpool's lack of a consistent goalscoring striker (Sturridge has had a long-term injury and Balotelli/Lambert/Borini haven't performed).

All things considered, De Bruyne's record is a bit better than Sterling's this season. But the season before Sterling scored and assisted more. Remembering again that Sterling is 20 while De Bruyne turns 24 in a month, it's pretty obvious on net who's the better signing.
Whoscored.com , strangely enough these players play some games in other competitions than the league, and de Bruyne has 15 goals and 22 assists in 41 games whilst sterling has 7 goals and 7 assists in 40 games. Just to let you know half the time de Bruyne is supplying for nicklas bendtner and the other half for bas dost ( played 25 & 26 games) so he's hardly supplying for world class strikers himself. Sterling scores or assists on average every 2.86 games which a direct winger like him is pretty average (similar to yannick bolasies record at this)whereas de Bruyne scores or assists every 1.1 games which is much higher. Few other players average per game to put sterling record into perspective for you-
John Walters 2
Erik lamela 3.3
Falcao( a striker of course but he's been a laughing stock this season) 2
Stewart Downing 2.56

And to put de Bruyne into perspective:
Eden hazard 1.43
Sergio aguero 1.03
Gareth bale 1.45
Alexis Sanchez 1.23

Again, this is wrong. Sterling has scored 7 in the league but 11 in all competitions. Not only are De Bruyne's stats put into the context of a weaker domestic league but also a weaker European competition (Wolfsburg were in the Europa League while Liverpool were knocked out of the CL).

But yeah, your main point is right: De Bruyne has had a better season than Sterling. But it's just one season. In the 2013/2014 season Sterling's stats were better. Sterling is almost four years younger in addition to being homegrown. Not much of a debate here. De Bruyne would definitely be the fall back option here.
 
aguerooo93 said:
thesilvalining said:
aguerooo93 said:
Where are you getting these stats???

De Bruyne in 30 league appearances this season, has scored 10 goals and made 18 assists.
Sterling in 31 league appearances this season, has scored 7 goals and made 7 assists.

Yeah De Bruyne's assists are significantly better and his goal record is slightly better but that's in a second-place team in the Bundesliga as opposed to a fifth-place team in the Premier League. Also, Sterling's lack of assists isn't necessarily indicative of his failings but Liverpool's lack of a consistent goalscoring striker (Sturridge has had a long-term injury and Balotelli/Lambert/Borini haven't performed).

All things considered, De Bruyne's record is a bit better than Sterling's this season. But the season before Sterling scored and assisted more. Remembering again that Sterling is 20 while De Bruyne turns 24 in a month, it's pretty obvious on net who's the better signing.
Whoscored.com , strangely enough these players play some games in other competitions than the league, and de Bruyne has 15 goals and 22 assists in 41 games whilst sterling has 7 goals and 7 assists in 40 games. Just to let you know half the time de Bruyne is supplying for nicklas bendtner and the other half for bas dost ( played 25 & 26 games) so he's hardly supplying for world class strikers himself. Sterling scores or assists on average every 2.86 games which a direct winger like him is pretty average (similar to yannick bolasies record at this)whereas de Bruyne scores or assists every 1.1 games which is much higher. Few other players average per game to put sterling record into perspective for you-
John Walters 2
Erik lamela 3.3
Falcao( a striker of course but he's been a laughing stock this season) 2
Stewart Downing 2.56

And to put de Bruyne into perspective:
Eden hazard 1.43
Sergio aguero 1.03
Gareth bale 1.45
Alexis Sanchez 1.23

Again, this is wrong. Sterling has scored 7 in the league but 11 in all competitions. Not only are De Bruyne's stats put into the context of a weaker domestic league but also a weaker European competition (Wolfsburg were in the Europa League while Liverpool were knocked out of the CL).

But yeah, your main point is right: De Bruyne has had a better season than Sterling. But it's just one season. In the 2013/2014 season Sterling's stats were better. Sterling is almost four years younger in addition to being homegrown. Not much of a debate here. De Bruyne would definitely be the fall back option here.
i was wrong it wasn't 7 goals 7 assists but looked again there it is actually 8 goals 8 assists, where is your data of 11 in all competitions as one of ours is wrong. I also don't think the leagues are that different in quality, the premier league is of course miles ahead in most aspects but actual quality we may be ahead but not massively. I personally believe sterling is massively overrated( with some stats to back that up) so we're clearly not going to agree but de Bruyne is cheaper and in my opinion has more quality, sterling is a speed merchant but I think he could be found to be an Aaron Lennon.
 
thesilvalining said:
aguerooo93 said:
sam-caddick said:
I disagree, De Bruyne's delivery into the box is definitely world class and he has over 20 assists to prove so.

His all round game and work rate needs to improve but in one or two years time he will definitely be world class.

Koke or Pogba are central midfielders anyway, De Bruyne is an attacker.

Forget Bale, he will be at Madrid next season because he is a Perez favourite, plus even if he was to go he would be rag bound.

We wouldn't pay 80m-100m for him when we need to rebuild the bigger picture.

De Bruyne's delivery is excellent but 20 assists in one season in the Bundesliga is not enough to show that he can be a star player in a team that wants to win not only the title but progress to the final few teams in the CL.

Reus is world-class and could be available particularly now Klopp is leaving. Sterling is also a better bet than De Bruyne because he's already got more flair and speed than him even though he's three and a half years younger.
This season De Bruyne has over twice the amount of goals than sterling and over 3x the amount of assists. He was also key to them beating bayern 4-1 whereas sterling chooses to go missing in big games but then again why let a small matter of facts get in the way of a good story lets go for that massively overrated lad just because he's English.
Fuck Sterling,more overpriced,overrated English shite !
 
JustAnotherCityFan said:
2 more assists today. Guys a machine!

I agree and I hope we follow up our interest because Txiki went to watch him live against Inter apparently and his agent has pretty much confirmed our interest so I reckon we will go in for him.

He isn't a fluid footballer like Silva but he is very effective, his ability to put top quality balls into the box is world class in my opinion and that is why he has over 20 assists in all competitions.
 
This fella is a proper footballer; ideal profile in that he can come in and immediately improve the team while also having huge scope for personal improvement.
 
.A. said:
This fella is a proper footballer; ideal profile in that he can come in and immediately improve the team while also having huge scope for personal improvement.

Who do you compare him with ?

Is he better than Di Maria ?
 
SuperBlu said:
.A. said:
This fella is a proper footballer; ideal profile in that he can come in and immediately improve the team while also having huge scope for personal improvement.

Who do you compare him with ?

Is he better than Di Maria ?

He certainly is much better than Di Maria this season. Di Maria is a better player than he's shown this season though and was one of the best players in the world before sinking at the swamp.

De Bruyne is more of a direct playmaker than our two (Silva, Nasri) but less focused on ball retention - I'm sure City would train that into him though just like Nasri, who used to dribble past players regularly at Arsenal. But he takes more risks and subsequently will lose the ball more.

The good thing about De Bruyne is he has so much variety to his playmaking. He can do the through balls and flicks, but also has a really good cross on him and can score plenty of goals. Stats speak for themselves and De Bruyne is more effective than any of our attacking midfielders this season, any of Bayern Munich's, any of Borussia Dortmund's, and any of Schalke's. He has more assists this season than Robben has in the BuLi in the last 3 seasons combined.

It's a very relevant question of whether he could make the switch to the Premier League. I think he could and may not have the same numbers as he does in the BuLi, but his productivity would remain very high. Much higher than Nasri's anyway. I read a post recently about his games at Chelsea under Mourinho and how he won man of the match in one game, then was benched the next. He didn't "flop", Mourinho just didn't like him and sold him. Just like one of his predecessors sold Matic.
 
richards30 said:
Having met with him twice we are VERY interested. I think it would be fair to say that in the past we had principles etc and that lost us hazard and isco. Hopefully tixiki doesn't piss around this summer and gets the deals done quickly for players like this

Did he buy you a drink?
 
aguerooo93 said:
sam-caddick said:
aguerooo93 said:
De Bruyne is a good player but not the kind of world-class signing we need this summer. We can't repeat the same mistakes made in previous windows where we buy players who add to our squad but don't elevate our team to the next level like Pogba, Bale or Koke could.

I disagree, De Bruyne's delivery into the box is definitely world class and he has over 20 assists to prove so.

His all round game and work rate needs to improve but in one or two years time he will definitely be world class.

Koke or Pogba are central midfielders anyway, De Bruyne is an attacker.

Forget Bale, he will be at Madrid next season because he is a Perez favourite, plus even if he was to go he would be rag bound.

We wouldn't pay 80m-100m for him when we need to rebuild the bigger picture.

De Bruyne's delivery is excellent but 20 assists in one season in the Bundesliga is not enough to show that he can be a star player in a team that wants to win not only the title but progress to the final few teams in the CL.

Reus is world-class and could be available particularly now Klopp is leaving. Sterling is also a better bet than De Bruyne because he's already got more flair and speed than him even though he's three and a half years younger.

I think you are over-rating Sterling if you think he is a better bet than De Bruyne.
 
Kun Aguero said:
richards30 said:
Having met with him twice we are VERY interested. I think it would be fair to say that in the past we had principles etc and that lost us hazard and isco. Hopefully tixiki doesn't piss around this summer and gets the deals done quickly for players like this

Did he buy you a drink?

He will piss about, it seems to be in his nature, whilst Chelsea dont f*ck about when they want a player...... when you see the £millions we've wasted on average at best players in recent years, I'd prefer the principles to go out the window and for us to pay the extra millions to agents if its needed to get the best talent out there.

The Hazard one has really come back to bite us in the arse.....
 

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