We're debating the subject, you're criticising the posters. Huge difference.As I said to the other clown that is all doom and gloom, I don't necessarily disagree, it's just that I get hacked off with the same old faces talking the same old shit, manic depressives, well piss off and stop trying to drag everyone down with you :o)
Rome wasn't built in a day, I watched us be shit for 30+ years, I can wait a little longer, I'm not like a few of you wanting everything right now and the club are fucking up not giving that to us.
Try talking to the world about Tevez and Bony and not on a bluemoon forum with fans with their tinted specs on... if you cannot see that Tevez isn't a few leagues above Bony then the mind completely boggles. He is in a entirely different class. They are different players your right, but i would sooner have Carlos Tevez in his prime than a Wilfried Bony in his prime anyday.
Fernandinho is good yes, but you are completely underestimating Barry. He was Mr Consistent for City and rarely had a bad game. Infact, i thought he was far more consistent than Fernandinho, although i do think Fernandinho is a player with more ability. As for De Jong and Delph... don't make me laugh. One has played in a World Cup final, the other has only ever played in relegation battles with NO champs league experience whatsoever. Whether De Jong was a sideways player or not, he was paid to do a job and that was protecting the defence and he did that to an absolute tee.
Mangala can pass a football? Half of the time last season he looked like his arse had dropped out, do you not remember the Carling Cup game against Newcastle last season where he gave the ball away everytime he got it? I am not saying Lescott is a better footballer than Mangala, but he is paid to defend and he did that far better than what i have seen from Mangala. Gary Cahill is another example, not the flashiest CB in the world, but he does the job he is paid to do.
I disagree, just because the owner is worth a few quid doesn't mean that selling clubs can simply make up a number, we won't pay itCannot believe this still isnt sorted! Wolfsburg and de bruyne are literally begging us to sort a deal! Poor prep for the new season.
I agree with Tevez > Bony. No contest.
I'd take Fernandinho and Delph over Barry and de Jong tbh.
And Mangala is a far (far) more talented centre-back than Lescott ever was. But Lescott was settled in a more defensive team, with a defensive system and Manager that suited him, in a league he knew and was used to, playing alongside a world-class CB at his peak and he had plenty of cover from midfield.
Mangala has been in and out of a team alongside numerous different centre-backs (mostly a struggling Kompany), in a very difficult high line system, in a new league, with barely any cover from midfield.
Agree. We've seen 20 minutes of Delph. We've no idea how he'll be.I think it's too early to compare Delph with anyone. It's a big step up for him.
As for Bony, the jury is very much out on this one. He showed some decent touches at times last season but also so extremely sloppy ones. He needs more games but if kun is fit, I can't see him getting them.
You're talking complete bollocks, as usual
Agree. We've seen 20 minutes of Delph. We've no idea how he'll be.
Bony's hardly had enough game time to make his mark either.
I can say that (off field antics aside) Tevez was one of the best strikers in the world, and his record is phenomenal at multiple clubs. Bony is unlikely to match him - which isn't a criticism of Bony.
De Jong was fine. Did a job for us. I wouldn't say he was a world beater, which is probably why we let him move on, but I remain unconvinced we're a whole lot better since. I'm very happy with Fernandinho though, no complaints on that front. Far less so with Fernando, and I've very mixed feelings about Yaya who is a mixture of magnificence and liability.
It will get done when the time is right
Absolute bollocks.
Barry was a solid player for us but his pace cost us in the champions league.
de jong could only go sideways.
Enjoy your visits to the Etihad I certainly will watching our evolving squad
I think people majorly underestimate Barry... it just goes to show how important he was given that when he played, our defensive record was fantastic and now its suddenly turned to shit. Fernandinho is a very good player, no doubting that, but i would swap a Gareth Barry in his prime for Fabian Delph anyday of the week. An all round more intelligent footballer with much more maturity to his game.
I will judge Mangala this season, but off the basis of what i have seen last season, he boasts all the physical attributes without having a football brain. He has been very vulnerable so far in his City career but i hope he comes good.
The time was right about 2 weeks ago.
Agueroooo????I'd love to argue this point as well. All I'd need to do is think of a single goal that was started by de Jong to prove he could go forward and start attacks but I'm struggling to think of one.
Yep, because we've done far better with more pace since he's gone.
I'd love to argue this point as well. All I'd need to do is think of a single goal that was started by de Jong to prove he could go forward and start attacks but I'm struggling to think of one.
Yep, because we've done far better with more pace since he's gone.
I'd love to argue this point as well. All I'd need to do is think of a single goal that was started by de Jong to prove he could go forward and start attacks but I'm struggling to think of one.
Jesus wept.Agueroooo????
Agree. We've seen 20 minutes of Delph. We've no idea how he'll be.
Bony's hardly had enough game time to make his mark either.
I can say that (off field antics aside) Tevez was one of the best strikers in the world, and his record is phenomenal at multiple clubs. Bony is unlikely to match him - which isn't a criticism of Bony.
De Jong was fine. Did a job for us. I wouldn't say he was a world beater, which is probably why we let him move on, but I remain unconvinced we're a whole lot better since. I'm very happy with Fernandinho though, no complaints on that front. Far less so with Fernando, and I've very mixed feelings about Yaya who is a mixture of magnificence and liability.
I didn't quote you.I never said Barry was better than Fernandinho just to point that out... but Barry and De Jong are far better than Fernando and Delph. We are far more vulnerable as a team defensively now than what we were back in the 11/12 and 12/13 season.
As for the De Jong debate... how many goals did Makelele score? Infact does Matic score many goals for Chelsea? His job isn't to score goals. Its not rocket science.
I never said Barry was better than Fernandinho just to point that out... but Barry and De Jong are far better than Fernando and Delph. We are far more vulnerable as a team defensively now than what we were back in the 11/12 and 12/13 season.
As for the De Jong debate... how many goals did Makelele score? Infact does Matic score many goals for Chelsea? His job isn't to score goals. Its not rocket science.
Evolving?
We shall see which players we bring in before the window closes.