FFS Barry is slow, awkward, cumbersome and well slow again!! Just not upto the job at the level were now at. Hurry up someone and employ Mark Hughes so he can take some of his dross with him!!Sabster said:Again will no-one reply to this question:
Everyone is making the argument that De Jong is a guaranteed starter due to how much Mancini has selected him.
What about Barry then - he played more minutes than De Jong (at lest in the PL) - does that make him indispensable?
johnmc said:It does amuse me that people moan about negative tactics but ask them who their favourite player is and some will say De Jong, our most negative player.
good post and gets the point across, which for sabster he cant get ,unless he is on the wum .....LoveCity said:johnmc said:It does amuse me that people moan about negative tactics but ask them who their favourite player is and some will say De Jong, our most negative player.
Our negative aura stems only from having two uncreative midfielders side by side - De Jong and Barry.
But De Jong is the best Makelele style player since Makelele himself. Makelele did as little going forward as De Jong and was a key part of England's finest club side just as De Jong is a key part of our side. Replacing Barry with a Modric or whoever would instantly transform us. It seems like simple logic to me - De Jong breaks up play as he does better than almost anyone in the world, gives the ball to Modric (or alternative, using Modric as the example) who then does something with the ball that Barry is unable to. The difference would be staggering.
The 5-0 thrashing of Sunderland had an extra forward (Tevez/Balotelli/Silva/Johnson w/ Yaya and Nigel behind) instead of Barry. Barry should be retained as a backup to De Jong and would still get 20+ games a season but just doesn't have the same effect as De Jong as 99 out of every 100 City fan can see.
de niro said:look sabster i hate the negative tactics employed by mancini at times but de jong is absolutly vital to us and should always be in the side. we always need someone to get stuck in and brak up the opponants play, nige is that man.
Sabster said:tilbz said:Kennedy_probably_has said:For me De Jong was our most important player last season along with Silva. It isn't just his tackling and aggression but the way he plays allows the rest of the team to go out and express themsleves. We miss him so much when he isn't playing, I can't see us selling him but if I'm wrong I will be absolutely devastated.
Not only that, he loves playing football and he loves mcfc and he gets on brilliantly with the fans and has a right laugh with them. Personally thing it's a toss up between him and vinny for the best value for money signing
The emboldened words sum up why he is overrated.
No doubt he is an excellent person and loves to be here, but we shouldn't let that cloud our perception of his footballing ability.
Greenjob said:FFS Barry is slow, awkward, cumbersome and well slow again!! Just not upto the job at the level were now at. Hurry up someone and employ Mark Hughes so he can take some of his dross with him!!Sabster said:Again will no-one reply to this question:
Everyone is making the argument that De Jong is a guaranteed starter due to how much Mancini has selected him.
What about Barry then - he played more minutes than De Jong (at lest in the PL) - does that make him indispensable?