De Rossi

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MCFCDroylsdenBlue said:
De Rossi is twice the player Barry is, Barry was good last season, he's 31 and has an injury so his City career could be coming to an end after next season. Toure is at the ACOF so De Rossi would be a quality signing, Africans and Italians seem to have longer careers than most others.

And a huge number of Italians seem to peak after 30 for some reason. Di Natale is a good example, only started getting regular caps for the Azzurri when he was 30ish and suddenly became a goal machine for Udinese. This is strange as City fitness coach Ivan Carminati reckons Serie A is leagues behind England in sports science (I think Milan is an exception, look at how they prolonged Maldini's career) yet many Italians seem to have long careers without slowing down too much.
 
rossi will be a 'marquee' signing , will complete our midfield , win us the league again , win us the champions league , win us the fifa club world cup after that , also the uefa cup so you know how important he is

£25m should do it
 
waspish said:
We not signing him

I agree with this. He's a top player who would improve any squad, but it seems highly unlikely that he'll leave Roma, particularly having just signed a new contract. I realise that people can say that he did this so Roma woud earn good money from a transfer fee, but really he didn't owe them anything as he'd been there all his career. If he really wanted to leave, he would've left last summer or at least in January in my opinion.
 
LoveCity said:
MCFCDroylsdenBlue said:
De Rossi is twice the player Barry is, Barry was good last season, he's 31 and has an injury so his City career could be coming to an end after next season. Toure is at the ACOF so De Rossi would be a quality signing, Africans and Italians seem to have longer careers than most others.

And a huge number of Italians seem to peak after 30 for some reason. Di Natale is a good example, only started getting regular caps for the Azzurri when he was 30ish and suddenly became a goal machine for Udinese. This is strange as City fitness coach Ivan Carminati reckons Serie A is leagues behind England in sports science (I think Milan is an exception, look at how they prolonged Maldini's career) yet many Italians seem to have long careers without slowing down too much.
The game is considerably slower in Italy. ANd thus, technique and tactics play a larger role. And these are qualities that get better with age. While Speed and athletism (i.e. the basis of English soccer) gets worse with age. SO it makes sense that Italians have longer careers. Or at least so I think.
 
Dax777 said:
LoveCity said:
MCFCDroylsdenBlue said:
De Rossi is twice the player Barry is, Barry was good last season, he's 31 and has an injury so his City career could be coming to an end after next season. Toure is at the ACOF so De Rossi would be a quality signing, Africans and Italians seem to have longer careers than most others.

And a huge number of Italians seem to peak after 30 for some reason. Di Natale is a good example, only started getting regular caps for the Azzurri when he was 30ish and suddenly became a goal machine for Udinese. This is strange as City fitness coach Ivan Carminati reckons Serie A is leagues behind England in sports science (I think Milan is an exception, look at how they prolonged Maldini's career) yet many Italians seem to have long careers without slowing down too much.
The game is considerably slower in Italy. ANd thus, technique and tactics play a larger role. And these are qualities that get better with age. While Speed and athletism (i.e. the basis of English soccer) gets worse with age. SO it makes sense that Italians have longer careers. Or at least so I think.


I agree, although Pirlo killed the Euro's(england). I would love De Rossi in a city shirt.
 
Mister Appointment said:
waspish said:
We not signing him

I agree with this. He's a top player who would improve any squad, but it seems highly unlikely that he'll leave Roma, particularly having just signed a new contract. I realise that people can say that he did this so Roma woud earn good money from a transfer fee, but really he didn't owe them anything as he'd been there all his career. If he really wanted to leave, he would've left last summer or at least in January in my opinion.


You don't think he would want to help his club by getting a larger transfer fee? His father is in the administration, I'd be shocked if the club wouldn't renew his contract even if they did know he was leaving. De Rossi would do anything he could do help the club if he was to depart.

And the biggest reason for optimism from my point of view is Roma's activity in the transfer window. They've brought in a number of central and defensive midfielders already, and have yet to offload much from the positions. I don't follow the team closely, but it looks to me like they are preparing to move one of their current CM.

Also, people bring up De Rossi's loyalty to Roma, but he has repeatedly made statements about a desire to play in the Premier League. I know he'd be my dream signing, but I don't think I'm being bias when I say he could end up at City.
 
joeA91 said:
De jong is a great individual and a very good player at what he does. However like many on here I agree he is very limited and someone like De Rossi would offer us so much more than both de jong and Barry.

To be honest the prospect of Yaya and De rossi in midfield together is a mouthwatering prospect.

His stock has raised since being with us, no doubt. He knows that and that is why he is making all the right noises about wanting to stay with us whilst at the same time refusing to sign a 110k plus a week contract extension. He would rather run down his contract and get a large signing on fee. I dont agree at alll that he is a great individual or a very good player. Just very lucky in the position in which he finds himself.
 
BlakeTheBlue said:
I spoke to Tolmie a few days ago in the too quiet thread. He said people need to forget about De Rossi.


Who fucking cares?

He isn't in charge of our transfers. Mancini clearly wants him and if a sudden circumstance happens in which he can sign him will it not happen because Tolmie says it won't? No. The guy is clearly connected but people need to remember he has no say on sudden opportunities that may arise.
 
svennis pennis said:
BlakeTheBlue said:
I spoke to Tolmie a few days ago in the too quiet thread. He said people need to forget about De Rossi.


Who fucking cares?

He isn't in charge of our transfers. Mancini clearly wants him and if a sudden circumstance happens in which he can sign him will it not happen because Tolmie says it won't? No. The guy is clearly connected but people need to remember he has no say on sudden opportunities that may arise.
Beat me to the punch, mate.

In my own little KFA world I'm "cautiouslly optimistic" that he is a target.

Whether he comes is a different matter and Martinez would be a very nice second choice :-)
 
I was on ragcafe where i read that some of their fans rate carrick more than de rossi and cosider him a more complete player , i mean, are they really that delusioned? Is it some kind of disorder they are suffering from which they feel every player wearing their shirt becomes better than anyone in their respective position
 
Football guy said:
I was on ragcafe where i read that some of their fans rate carrick more than de rossi and cosider him a more complete player , i mean, are they really that delusioned? Is it some kind of disorder they are suffering from which they feel every player wearing their shirt becomes better than anyone in their respective position


"are they really that deluded? Yes
 
svennis pennis said:
BlakeTheBlue said:
I spoke to Tolmie a few days ago in the too quiet thread. He said people need to forget about De Rossi.


Who fucking cares?

He isn't in charge of our transfers. Mancini clearly wants him and if a sudden circumstance happens in which he can sign him will it not happen because Tolmie says it won't? No. The guy is clearly connected but people need to remember he has no say on sudden opportunities that may arise.
What? You clearly understand that Tolmie is JUST a messenger to us. We clearly understand that Tolmie has no authority on the transfers.

I believe what Tolmie meant was that we weren't interested in De Rossi, so people should probably stop saying like we are gonna sign De Rossi. If we were ever interested in that man, Tolmie would be one of the first to know.
 
svennis pennis said:
BlakeTheBlue said:
I spoke to Tolmie a few days ago in the too quiet thread. He said people need to forget about De Rossi.


Who fucking cares?

He isn't in charge of our transfers. Mancini clearly wants him and if a sudden circumstance happens in which he can sign him will it not happen because Tolmie says it won't? No. The guy is clearly connected but people need to remember he has no say on sudden opportunities that may arise.

This. Tolmie is an interesting source of information but ffs fellas he isn't the be all and end all.
 
Stoned Rose said:
svennis pennis said:
BlakeTheBlue said:
I spoke to Tolmie a few days ago in the too quiet thread. He said people need to forget about De Rossi.


Who fucking cares?

He isn't in charge of our transfers. Mancini clearly wants him and if a sudden circumstance happens in which he can sign him will it not happen because Tolmie says it won't? No. The guy is clearly connected but people need to remember he has no say on sudden opportunities that may arise.

This. Tolmie is an interesting source of information but ffs fellas he isn't the be all and end all.

And sometimes he has to be allowed to post his own opinions without people regarding them as inside info. He's a City fan like the rest of us don't forget.
 
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