Declan Rice

[mccity]

@Alan Harper's Tash
@RayCTID
@Gus Cruz

Could you guys please in future either cut the bickering out or take it to PMs, thanks.

 

[FantasyIreland]

Rice would be a great signing,he has all the tools to play DM in our side.However,it would leave Rodri in a bit of limbo and,given his ability and the investment,i don't see that happening.

Any Dinho replacement probably needs to be an up and coming youngster or a player good enough but happy to play second fiddle.

 

[skillman]

Rice would be a great signing,he has all the tools to play DM in our side.However,it would leave Rodri in a bit of limbo and,given his ability and the investment,i don't see that happening.

Any Dinho replacement probably needs to be an up and coming youngster or a player good enough but happy to play second fiddle.

Agreed. Rice won’t come in to be second choice behind Rodri who, deservedly so, is first choice in midfield.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Any Dinho replacement probably needs to be an up and coming youngster or a player good enough but happy to play second fiddle.

Then Rodri gets injured for months and we’re left with a kid as DM to jeopardize the entire season hehe

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Then Rodri gets injured for months and we’re left with a kid as DM to jeopardize the entire season hehe

why would playing a young academy player jeopardise our season?

sound like you don’t rate our youngsters at all. We have some of the best young players in the country and they would do a great job for us

 

[billymumphrey]

If, and it's a big if, we have the desire and funds to sign Rice, why wouldn't we sign Kalvin Phillips instead? Much better player/prospect for me, and won't attract as a high a price tag...

 

[Cheeky Txiki]

As good as Rice is, why not give Lavia a try in the preseason and see how he adapts to professional level? Rice would probably cost a fortune and I feel Lavia does have a lot of potential to merit a chance to develop.... Meanwhile we can play Rodri and extend Ferna for one more season.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

why would playing a young academy player jeopardise our season?

sound like you don’t rate our youngsters at all. We have some of the best young players in the country and they would do a great job for us

I have nothing against Academy players. But what we have with Rodri and Fernandinho is a perfect mix, and we use Fernandinho usually when we want exactly what Academy players can’t offer.
I want to protect Academy players from being thrown into the lions’ dent when they have very little first team experience and ask of them to deliver on complex tactical demands against top teams that would challenge them in their inexperience. They deserve to be treated with special care or even our own fans will turn on them

 

[Sir peace frog]

Then Rodri gets injured for months and we’re left with a kid as DM to jeopardize the entire season hehe

And sometimes that's all the kids need, a "lucky" break ,a window of opportunity

 

[Cityfan]

Then Rodri gets injured for months and we’re left with a kid as DM to jeopardize the entire season hehe

Guardiola has shown he uses his players flexibly.
Last time Fern was out for a significant time Gundogan took the role and did very well.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

As good as Rice is, why not give Lavia a try in the preseason and see how he adapts to professional level? Rice would probably cost a fortune and I feel Lavia does have a lot of potential to merit a chance to develop.... Meanwhile we can play Rodri and extend Ferna for one more season.

I don’t think you read the report: Rice is a potential signing were Fernandinho to choose not to extend his contract.
Anyone who thinks Pep will play Lavia many times next season must not know Pep. Let’s assume Fernandinho doesn’t extend his contract, Rodri gets injured at the Euros and we have to play against Chelsea in the Community Shield and against United for the Supercup at the beginning of next season. Do people really think Pep would play Lavia because of a couple good games in preseason?! What he would do is improvise one of the experienced players and we have seen what can happen in that situation, for instance just look at last season.
Lavia can be around next season, but if Fernandinho is gone, a decent option with some experience needs to come. Can’t be a downgrade

 

[Deleted member 87819]

And sometimes that's all the kids need, a "lucky" break ,a window of opportunity

This fairy tale version is so beautiful, but in reality, things don’t work like this. Pep doesn’t work like this. And what if Lavia fails miserably in his first games in the scenario you’re envisioning? Is it fair to him? And we’re left with nothing

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Last time Fern was out for a significant time Gundogan took the role and did very well.

I don’t think we want Gundogan back in that role.
Again, people seem to ignore the power of a strong squad. This was our advantage this season. You can’t lose players and not replace them well.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Rice is only one of several options Pep and thr staff have discussed

 

[johncity]

i also think foden could play there as well

 

[Cityfan]

I don’t think we want Gundogan back in that role.
Again, people seem to ignore the power of a strong squad. This was our advantage this season. You can’t lose players and not replace them well.

I'm not sure why we don't, I am not saying a defensive midfielder is not a possibility just that the way Pep uses players I would not be at all surprised if he was to get another 'number8' style midfielder and use others who can play further back.

 

[handsofstone]

Would love to sign Rice

Think he's fantastic and developed into much more than a basic DM, him and Soucek arguably been the best CM in the Prem

The big asterisk is the price, West ham reportedly want £100mil...I'm sure if we offered £70mil they would accept it but is a lot, especially given there are other defensive midfielders out there worth half that e.g. Camavinga, Zakaria, Locatelli, Neuhaus etc. Who would only set us back £30mil to £40mil

For the record, if they all cost the same amount I would pick Rice over the above, terribly underated player imo

 

[nmc]

I’m not sure Declan Rice is the player we need and I think the ‘English Premium’ would kill any prospect of a deal.... the real issue is Rodri - he’s played a lot, his passing is good, he breaks play up pretty well but he’s incredibly slow and against some teams his lack of mobility is a problem. I do think we need more than a Rodri backup - sometimes we need a Rodri alternative.

 

[Deleted member 87819]

Locatelli, Neuhaus

Both would be fantastic. Typical “Pep players”

 

[Deleted member 87819]

I do think we need more than a Rodri backup - sometimes we need a Rodri alternative.

I agree with this and that’s what I think Rice (or the names mentioned by @handsofstone ) would be. They wouldn’t immediately be the second choice. And we have seen Rodri and Fernandinho play together again and again, so...