Derby sold out

SWP's back said:
troadie said:
Mansour's tow ropes is actually in favour of MTP because it lets him get tickets before those with more loyalty points than him.
Understandably so.

Completely understandable, was just pointing out to peter that mansour's in favour and not against it. It's also understandable why the club are doing it, they realise there are people in mansour's situation who are happy to pay extra for MTP, doesn't make it right though.
 
Dubai Blue said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
peter.evans said:
How does the club get away with this match ticket priority thing ? If you had in excess of 1500 points you could not buy a ticket unless you had match ticket priority, whatever that is supposed to mean. Then members with 750 points were able to buy a ticket ahead of members with more than double the points than they had, purely because they had match ticket priority. Is this fair ? How much does MTP cost and is the game v the Rags the only game MTP is going to be used for and why does the club do this anyway ? Purely to make more money out of the supporters.

MTP is used for every game i believe, its good cos its a way that those with feck all points (like me) can gain a slight advantage over some fans when it comes to tickets.

its only an extra £10 or £15 i believe, anyone (let alone a ST holder) would be mad not to get it

The club may as well do away with the loyalty point scheme for all the good it now does. This is just yet another legitimate way to bypass the system by paying for the privilege. City should stop doing this sort of shit; it really doesn't sit well with the whole 'loyalty' ethos they love to espouse.

I agree on the whole but match after match is selling out quickly so City feel they need not change anything.
 
marco said:
can anyone make clear-

if a season ticket holder does not renew and buys 'is it the bluecard' to obtain tickets on open sale do they carry the points what they earned on there season card or to they start over again

The points remain, your supporter number always stays the same regardless of the type of membership you hold and the points are allocated to this number.
 
troadie said:
peter.evans said:
Mansour and others, absolutely spot on ! The club should be ashamed of itself for this pathetic excuse to squeeze a few extra quid out of fans who are paying high prices for match tickets in the first place. I will be writing to complain but I doubt anything will be done about it. My circumstances dictated that i couldn't get a season ticket just at the time we became mega successful. I have been to over 1000 City games since 1970 yet am very much treated as a second class citizen by the club, purely because the loyalty points system means it is only your record of attendance since we moved stadium that counts. I had a season ticket for many years at Maine Rd, they must have record of this somewhere ? Why does the club not give me several thousand loyalty points for those years of misery watching crap. In this case, the club craps on about loyalty, yet someone with double the number of loyalty points than others can't get a match ticket unless you make another payment to the club. It is only a token amount but it is the principal that pisses me off.

You are right mate the club will do nothing about it if you complain, I sent them an email complaining about them using both loyalty points and MTP, saying they should use one system or the other and the reply basically said it's in the terms and conditions etc.

I'm in a similar boat to you, started going in the mid 70's, had a season ticket for years at Maine Road but circumstances dictated I had to give it up. I'm over the 1000 point mark so I don't do too bad on the ticket front but I don't take the I'm alright jack attitude, I believe it's wrong what the club are doing.

mansour's tow ropes said:
MTP is used for every game i believe, its good cos its a way that those with feck all points (like me) can gain a slight advantage over some fans when it comes to tickets.

its only an extra £10 or £15 i believe, anyone (let alone a ST holder) would be mad not to get it

Mansour's tow ropes is actually in favour of MTP because it lets him get tickets before those with more loyalty points than him.

No it does not. MTP only comes into play after all the brackets of points have had their chance to get tickets.

It goes something like this (for example):

- 8000 points
-7000 points
-6000
-5000
-3000
-2500
-2000
-1500
-MTP
-normal blue card
-general sale

if people buy when they are first eligible to do so then people with MTP will not affect them; it only gives me an advantage over those who also have not enough points to get them into an earlier purchasing bracket.

so to reiterate - it does not let me get tickets before those with more points than me - this would be stupid as it would render the whole loyalty points system redundant.

but having said that, whenever i buy a ticket i am happy and don't give a flying fuck about those people with more points than me who may have missed out on getting a ticket for whatever reason. if they have enough points, they are given a priority and if they fail to purchase their ticket within their time then tough luck.
 
Dubai Blue said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
peter.evans said:
How does the club get away with this match ticket priority thing ? If you had in excess of 1500 points you could not buy a ticket unless you had match ticket priority, whatever that is supposed to mean. Then members with 750 points were able to buy a ticket ahead of members with more than double the points than they had, purely because they had match ticket priority. Is this fair ? How much does MTP cost and is the game v the Rags the only game MTP is going to be used for and why does the club do this anyway ? Purely to make more money out of the supporters.

MTP is used for every game i believe, its good cos its a way that those with feck all points (like me) can gain a slight advantage over some fans when it comes to tickets.

its only an extra £10 or £15 i believe, anyone (let alone a ST holder) would be mad not to get it
The club may as well do away with the loyalty point scheme for all the good it now does. This is just yet another legitimate way to bypass the system by paying for the privilege. City should stop doing this sort of shit; it really doesn't sit well with the whole 'loyalty' ethos they love to espouse.

wrong - those with enough points to get them into the necessary points bracket still get to buy tickets before those just with MTP.

the MTP makes a very minor difference in the scheme of things, but for £15 i have the opportunity to buy tickets 2 or 3 days before they go to normal blue card members - and for this i am willing to pay this nominal fee.

if you have enough points, then stay away from the MTP system, its up to 'unloyal' supporters like me to choose if they wish to pay this extra fee in order to gain the rewards that it offers
 
Oohvonkyvonky said:
Troy Tempest said:
Oohvonkyvonky said:
My mate has just tried this for me and it comes back

"One of the memberships selected is unable to buy tickets for this event due to restrictions in place by the club, please review your selection. A member may be able to purchase more than one ticket per event."

He's got over 6000pts so what you said can't be right?? Or am I missing something?

He must link the purchase to his Season ticket/Blue membership because your membership does not meet the criteria. Tell him to select his membership in the drop down menu and the sale will go through.
I am a Platinum member and did just this for a Blue member mate of mine.

Done this - He started an account with his details, his season ticket and the same thing happened? Maybe its because yours is platinum??

To be absolutely sure that you are doing everything correctly I will post the procedure that worked for me.

To start with the purchaser must have have a Blue Membership with over 2000 points or a Season Ticket, I have seen it posted that there isn't a points criteria for Season Ticket holders but I cannot confirm this because I have more than the required 2000 points.

The first thing the purchaser must do is register with Viagogo, which I assume they have from your posts. Next they have to link their MCFC Membership with their Viagogo account. This is done by going into the 'My Account' section on the Viagogo site and selecting the 'Subscriptions and Memberships' tab. Once there they will see an 'Activate' button, which when selected will allow them to input their MCFC Supporter number and MCFC Password. This enables Viagogo to confirm with City your friend's eligibility for the fixture they wish to purchase tickets for.

After the purchaser has completed the above they should move on to selecting the tickets they want, in this case for the derby. After clicking on the buy button they will be prompted to select the membership they are purchasing for. Here your friend must select their own eligible membership and not your linked/activated one, if you are linked/activated at all. Remember your membership is not eligible for the derby, but your friend as an eligible member is entitled to purchase up to four tickets, which will be paper tickets if they are a Season ticket holder or a Blue member with a ticket already on their card, and will be posted to their registered address.

I apologise for the length of the post, but I wanted to be clear regarding the procedure I followed. If this fails I suggest you phone Viagogo because something is wrong with your friend's account.
 
mansour's tow ropes said:
troadie said:
peter.evans said:
Mansour and others, absolutely spot on ! The club should be ashamed of itself for this pathetic excuse to squeeze a few extra quid out of fans who are paying high prices for match tickets in the first place. I will be writing to complain but I doubt anything will be done about it. My circumstances dictated that i couldn't get a season ticket just at the time we became mega successful. I have been to over 1000 City games since 1970 yet am very much treated as a second class citizen by the club, purely because the loyalty points system means it is only your record of attendance since we moved stadium that counts. I had a season ticket for many years at Maine Rd, they must have record of this somewhere ? Why does the club not give me several thousand loyalty points for those years of misery watching crap. In this case, the club craps on about loyalty, yet someone with double the number of loyalty points than others can't get a match ticket unless you make another payment to the club. It is only a token amount but it is the principal that pisses me off.

You are right mate the club will do nothing about it if you complain, I sent them an email complaining about them using both loyalty points and MTP, saying they should use one system or the other and the reply basically said it's in the terms and conditions etc.

I'm in a similar boat to you, started going in the mid 70's, had a season ticket for years at Maine Road but circumstances dictated I had to give it up. I'm over the 1000 point mark so I don't do too bad on the ticket front but I don't take the I'm alright jack attitude, I believe it's wrong what the club are doing.

mansour's tow ropes said:
MTP is used for every game i believe, its good cos its a way that those with feck all points (like me) can gain a slight advantage over some fans when it comes to tickets.

its only an extra £10 or £15 i believe, anyone (let alone a ST holder) would be mad not to get it

Mansour's tow ropes is actually in favour of MTP because it lets him get tickets before those with more loyalty points than him.

No it does not. MTP only comes into play after all the brackets of points have had their chance to get tickets.

It goes something like this (for example):

- 8000 points
-7000 points
-6000
-5000
-3000
-2500
-2000
-1500
-MTP
-normal blue card
-general sale

if people buy when they are first eligible to do so then people with MTP will not affect them; it only gives me an advantage over those who also have not enough points to get them into an earlier purchasing bracket.

so to reiterate - it does not let me get tickets before those with more points than me - this would be stupid as it would render the whole loyalty points system redundant.

but having said that, whenever i buy a ticket i am happy and don't give a flying fuck about those people with more points than me who may have missed out on getting a ticket for whatever reason. if they have enough points, they are given a priority and if they fail to purchase their ticket within their time then tough luck.

Yes it does, example, a blue member with 10 points and MTP can get a ticket before a blue member with 1000000 points and no MTP, also your selling criteria example is wrong unless you are referring to season card holders getting tickets for cup games before blue members.

So to reiterate, it does let you to get tickets before those with more points than you.
 
troadie said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
troadie said:
You are right mate the club will do nothing about it if you complain, I sent them an email complaining about them using both loyalty points and MTP, saying they should use one system or the other and the reply basically said it's in the terms and conditions etc.

I'm in a similar boat to you, started going in the mid 70's, had a season ticket for years at Maine Road but circumstances dictated I had to give it up. I'm over the 1000 point mark so I don't do too bad on the ticket front but I don't take the I'm alright jack attitude, I believe it's wrong what the club are doing.



Mansour's tow ropes is actually in favour of MTP because it lets him get tickets before those with more loyalty points than him.

No it does not. MTP only comes into play after all the brackets of points have had their chance to get tickets.

It goes something like this (for example):

- 8000 points
-7000 points
-6000
-5000
-3000
-2500
-2000
-1500
-MTP
-normal blue card
-general sale

if people buy when they are first eligible to do so then people with MTP will not affect them; it only gives me an advantage over those who also have not enough points to get them into an earlier purchasing bracket.

so to reiterate - it does not let me get tickets before those with more points than me - this would be stupid as it would render the whole loyalty points system redundant.

but having said that, whenever i buy a ticket i am happy and don't give a flying fuck about those people with more points than me who may have missed out on getting a ticket for whatever reason. if they have enough points, they are given a priority and if they fail to purchase their ticket within their time then tough luck.

Yes it does, example, a blue member with 10 points and MTP can get a ticket before a blue member with 1000000 points and no MTP, also your selling criteria example is wrong unless you are referring to season card holders getting tickets for cup games before blue members.

So to reiterate, it does let you to get tickets before those with more points than you.

are you on the wind up? if someone has 1000000 points they will qualify for the earliest date of being eligible to purchase (i.e. 8000+ plus points or whatever it is for that match). MTP only comes into play after all categories of points have been given their chance to purchase. if you think that having a £15 MTP membership puts you at the head of the queue, in front of people with thousands of points, then you need help.

edit: ok i was wrong about one thing - even with enough points you still need MTP to purchase, i didn't realise this and this does seem to force all blue members to pay the extra £15. but at the end of the day these fans would probably all choose to pay the extra £15, and its not much in the grand scheme of a season.
 
mansour's tow ropes said:
Dubai Blue said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
MTP is used for every game i believe, its good cos its a way that those with feck all points (like me) can gain a slight advantage over some fans when it comes to tickets.

its only an extra £10 or £15 i believe, anyone (let alone a ST holder) would be mad not to get it
The club may as well do away with the loyalty point scheme for all the good it now does. This is just yet another legitimate way to bypass the system by paying for the privilege. City should stop doing this sort of shit; it really doesn't sit well with the whole 'loyalty' ethos they love to espouse.

wrong - those with enough points to get them into the necessary points bracket still get to buy tickets before those just with MTP.

the MTP makes a very minor difference in the scheme of things, but for £15 i have the opportunity to buy tickets 2 or 3 days before they go to normal blue card members - and for this i am willing to pay this nominal fee.

if you have enough points, then stay away from the MTP system, its up to 'unloyal' supporters like me to choose if they wish to pay this extra fee in order to gain the rewards that it offers

No they don't, unless they are season card holders buying for cup games. You really need to look at the whole ticket buying criteria again as you don't seem to be understanding something along the way.<br /><br />-- Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:30 pm --<br /><br />
mansour's tow ropes said:
troadie said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
No it does not. MTP only comes into play after all the brackets of points have had their chance to get tickets.

It goes something like this (for example):

- 8000 points
-7000 points
-6000
-5000
-3000
-2500
-2000
-1500
-MTP
-normal blue card
-general sale

if people buy when they are first eligible to do so then people with MTP will not affect them; it only gives me an advantage over those who also have not enough points to get them into an earlier purchasing bracket.

so to reiterate - it does not let me get tickets before those with more points than me - this would be stupid as it would render the whole loyalty points system redundant.

but having said that, whenever i buy a ticket i am happy and don't give a flying fuck about those people with more points than me who may have missed out on getting a ticket for whatever reason. if they have enough points, they are given a priority and if they fail to purchase their ticket within their time then tough luck.

Yes it does, example, a blue member with 10 points and MTP can get a ticket before a blue member with 1000000 points and no MTP, also your selling criteria example is wrong unless you are referring to season card holders getting tickets for cup games before blue members.

So to reiterate, it does let you to get tickets before those with more points than you.

are you on the wind up? if someone has 1000000 points they will qualify for the earliest date of being eligible to purchase (i.e. 8000+ plus points or whatever it is for that match). MTP only comes into play after all categories of points have been given their chance to purchase. if you think that having a £15 MTP membership puts you at the head of the queue, in front of people with thousands of points, then you need help.

No I'm not on a wind up, unless I'm missing something or my brain has gone haywire then the example I've given is correct, some of the stuff you are going on about just doesn't make sense, I don't think you understand the ticket selling criteria.
 
mansour's tow ropes said:
troadie said:
mansour's tow ropes said:
No it does not. MTP only comes into play after all the brackets of points have had their chance to get tickets.

It goes something like this (for example):

- 8000 points
-7000 points
-6000
-5000
-3000
-2500
-2000
-1500
-MTP
-normal blue card
-general sale

if people buy when they are first eligible to do so then people with MTP will not affect them; it only gives me an advantage over those who also have not enough points to get them into an earlier purchasing bracket.

so to reiterate - it does not let me get tickets before those with more points than me - this would be stupid as it would render the whole loyalty points system redundant.

but having said that, whenever i buy a ticket i am happy and don't give a flying fuck about those people with more points than me who may have missed out on getting a ticket for whatever reason. if they have enough points, they are given a priority and if they fail to purchase their ticket within their time then tough luck.

Yes it does, example, a blue member with 10 points and MTP can get a ticket before a blue member with 1000000 points and no MTP, also your selling criteria example is wrong unless you are referring to season card holders getting tickets for cup games before blue members.

So to reiterate, it does let you to get tickets before those with more points than you.

are you on the wind up? if someone has 1000000 points they will qualify for the earliest date of being eligible to purchase (i.e. 8000+ plus points or whatever it is for that match). MTP only comes into play after all categories of points have been given their chance to purchase. if you think that having a £15 MTP membership puts you at the head of the queue, in front of people with thousands of points, then you need help.

No they don't. Only people with Match Ticket Priority were allowed to buy for the Derby. If you haven't got MTP you haven't been able to buy. It sold out at 750 points AND MTP.

See below...

2012/13 Blue Members with Match Ticket Priority and 3,500 or more loyalty points – Monday 12 November at 9am.
2012/13 Blue Members with Match Ticket Priority and 3,000 or more loyalty points – Tuesday 13 November at 9am.
2012/13 Blue Members with Match Ticket Priority and 2,500 or more loyalty points – Wednesday 14 November at 9am.
2012/13 Blue Members with Match Ticket Priority and 2,000 or more loyalty points – Thursday 15 November at 9am.
2012/13 Blue Members with Match Ticket Priority and 1,500 or more loyalty points – Friday 16 November at 9am.
2012/13 Blue Members with Match Ticket Priority and 1,000 or more loyalty points – Saturday 17 November at 9am.
2012/13 Blue members with Match Ticket Priority and 750 or more loyalty points - Monday 19th November at 9am.
 

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