Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 3)

[George Hannah]

Does he even care?

He certainly cares more than one or two on this thread who seem more interested in City losing so they can say "I told you so" about the manager.

I bet that feels good to post Billy.

and so rich it's like a slice of fruit cake, coming from a poster who wanted the previous manager sacked from the hour he was appointed.

 

[lancs blue]

Back to Mancini vs Pelli - Surely this is getting boring - he has gone - need to stop this. The away form/results were poor under Mancini and it's shit under Pelli

They should have identified this as an area and been working damn hard to rectify it.

My criticism from yesterday is that MP did not set the team up to play at tempo from the off - we needed to get at them

I hope all the British Journo's are happy - we selected 3 English players who along with the rest were shite...

I still think he is assessing the players and slowly some are to be shown the door

Nobody would be making the comparisons if we weren't 8th in the table and dropping stupid points time after time away from home.

I'm not after Pellegrini's head, I said when he was appointed that he deserved a full season to show what he can do but he has to accept criticism for the away results so far, they are just not acceptable.

 

[robbieh]

10 points from the next 12 would be good enough and would put us back in the top 4 and very likely in touch with Arsenal.

August, Sep and October has gone. Commit it to memory. learn from it. Use it to avoid complacency, and lets get to the New Year within 3 points of the top. If we do that, then every City fan will be rightly confident of winning back the title from Man Utd

It's annoying to have thrown points away, but lets use the experience positively. I refuse to accept that City can't make 3 points on Arsenal and Man Utd between now and New Year, and another 3 points on them between then and May. It's a very limited and achievable target

That in itself doesn't look insurmountable by any stretch, I agree. And perhaps I'm getting hung up on the losses, rather than the points. However, I think it's telling that no team with 4 losses at this stage of the season has gone on to win the league. It's just too many hits to take all at once. There are too many frailties that don't look like they're being properly addressed. It would take a turnaround of post-Arsenal proportions to claw this back now. How the bookies still have us favourites I genuinely have no idea. With that Kolarov free kick right at the end, by hook or by crook, we should have got that ball in the back of the net. That's firmly what I believe champions would have done. We didn't even test the keeper.

We can have faith in the fact that our performances haven't been poor. We haven't deserved, depending on your definition of such, to come away with so few points from our away games. It would be a bigger worry if we weren't getting points and playing shit. However lowest points total since the takeover tells it's own story. If that Hughes trajectory spiel is to be believed, Pellegrini is surely soon going to be out on his arse. Because we're heading for outside the top 4 at the moment at best.

We've also changed manager, lost Hart and Kompany and we went into the Sunderland game having just lost Silva who was on fire.
Take a step back, look at the squad and then look at our immediate fixtures. I expect 10 from the next 12 points.

In short time w could easily be comtemplating a return to Wembley, a glamour tie in the last 16 of the Champions League and 10 points from 12 would put us back in the title race

Can I come back to you on that? Actually I think that the next 7 games are more relevant as we have an easy away game, is that an oxymoron, at Fulham and two home games with Arsenal and Liverpool.

Arsenal, Spurs and Liverpool at home. Win those 3 and barring complete meltdown away from home we should be handily placed. Lose or draw two of those, throw in a draw or loss at either WBA or Southampton and the title will be gone, by the end of December and we will have a fight on our hands to finish fourth. Who knows but I am certainly less confident than you.

A glamour tie in the last 16 is no use if we lose to Barca, Madrid whoever which is highly likely.

 

[AliWaheed]

Well his job's not safe. I'm hoping they're keeping an eye on Diego Simeone. Or just get HArry Redknapp. At least we'd win the prem every season.

I think his job is safe for a good while yet, the Catalans would be putting their own heads on the block if they sacked their own choice of manager after removing a man who finished 3rd, 1st and 2nd in his 3 full seasons.

and qualified for the CL every year and was an FA Cup winner and was sabotaged from repeating it.[\b]

Lets stop that right now. Mancini was a ****. After we won the league he fucked with the team and thats why he had to go. Our away form remained shit under him for years. We lost the FA cup to WIGAN!!!! under Mancini. Mancini took the strongest defence in the prem and turned it shit!

Fact is, nothing's changed under Pellegrini. My first warning signs were when he said Dzeko was his number 1. Any pillock can see Dzeko's a waste of space. Should have kept hold of Tevez any way he could have. At least he put a shift in.

 

[George Hannah]

....Fact is, nothing's changed under Pellegrini. My first warning signs were when he said Dzeko was his number 1. Any pillock can see Dzeko's a waste of space. Should have kept hold of Tevez any way he could have. At least he put a shift in.

there is a case of red swamp fever here that needs to be isolated

 

[Scareye]

....Fact is, nothing's changed under Pellegrini. My first warning signs were when he said Dzeko was his number 1. Any pillock can see Dzeko's a waste of space. Should have kept hold of Tevez any way he could have. At least he put a shift in.

there is a case of red swamp fever here that needs to be isolated

Hence my question about the smell!!!

 

[Anonymous]

and so rich it's like a slice of fruit cake, coming from a poster who wanted the previous manager sacked from the hour he was appointed.

As time progresses I'm sure that "the hour he was appointed" will become "before he even got the job".

It's a shame when you have to lie because you've not really got anywhere else to go. Rest assured of one thing though ... I won't be on here telling you to "fuck off and go support Chelsea you cancer on our club" because you don't rate the manager. Whoever he may be and whatever your reasons may be.

 

[onceabluealways]

Re: Clueless manager

Agree with this. Think some of our fans need to grow a spine, if they are worried about us looking stupid.
Don't know why losing games makes us look stupid, but there you go. Pellers got it wrong first half (IMO)
and then changed it. We had all the 2nd half. It is not his fault, the players on the pitch were unable to break down
a stubborn defence and that includes ALL players, not just the scapegoats.

To call the man a clown (because we got a bad result) is just name calling and childish. He was ok after
last week's result. He is new to the job (as said by above poster) and think he deserves more than 11 weeks
before we all hang him.

Sorry I don't agree - he watches City all the time like we do - when i saw the team i commented on how difficult it will be to break Sunderland down without silva and he should have started with Navas. It seems to me that his philosophy was we scored loads against Norwich and will just do the same, whereas he should be looking at the way we normally play with a reliant on silva. Therefore he had options give Yaya a free roll to play in the hole , play Navas, play 5 in midfield with more width.

This is were the manager earns his wage, Anyone can just throw the same team out knowing they are playing Ok and should win. Garcia and yaya in midfield is just poor IMO and I agree with other posters - If we are forced to make midfield and Central defense changes then why drop zab our best fullback.

I realised before the kick off why did it take 45 minutes for hime to realise the same thing. watch Mourinho if its not working he doesn't wait for 45 or 60 minutes he makes the change right away.

I agree with your point about Zabba. Just saying that most of the other changes were down to injuries. Also you can't account
for Yaya to go missing in action again. I think he made a mistake re Navas and this was changed at half time.
I think he didn't want to make wholesale subs and then go 2 down, as we were in total control 2nd half. Just didn't have the nous
to get the ball in the net. Not the managers fault.

Overall Pellegrini is not above criticism, but to name call and apportion total blame is totally unfair, and akin to us as fans
throwing our toys out of our prams.

At no point do i give total blame to Pelle, the thread is about him so i give my opinion. I totally accept that some players have to stand up and be counted. Yaya especially in my book - he's one of the highest paid and just not cutting in in to many games

 

[sh249]

I want to give Pellegrini a chance but I can not understand how we can have dominated every game (with exception of Stoke) in terms of possession and shots and come away with so few points.

On the contrary, it seems fairly obvious to me. We have tons and tons of possession because the other teams are happy to let us have it. They then sit back and watch us play pretty passes all game without actually seriously threatening to score.

This is what surprised me yesterday. Because whatever other accusations may be levelled at us since Pellegrini has taken over, it can't be that we play too slow, keep meaningless possession, merely go side-to-side with no cutting edge etc. Yesterday was a throw back to last season - wasn't bad defending (or rather being too attacking - the goal did come from poor defending by Milner and Demichelis) which cost us, it was that we were hopeless going forward, made it easy for them to defend against us, and never looked like scoring.

 

[crystal_mais]

Re: Clueless manager

Surely it should be Clueless Thread :)