Discuss Pellegrini (Pt 4)

[moomba]

This thread sucks.

 

[franksinatra]

Surely it's obvious that if you sell/loan five players out and replace them with five players, you haven't added to your squad. You've replaced out going players. So saying "Pellegrini spent 100 million" is disingenuous. Everything else you've written is IMO to try and obfuscate the salient point. Which is simply five out/five in.

I don't dispute the spending has made the squad stronger, because Fernandinho is an upgrade on Barry, Navas on Sinclair, and Jovetic/Negredo on Balo/Tevez IMO. However when people talk about our squad being 100 million pounds stronger that's frankly a laughable assertion considering how many people think that the players we signed in fact weren't as good as the ones we let go.

There's more than one or two who simply cannot let a positive comment about Pellegrini pass without feeling the need to criticise him. That in and of itself is fair enough, it's the nature of forums. Unlike the little Hitlers last season who wanted all discussion on the manager banned because it wasn't fair, I happen to think both sides of the discussion are interesting. What I can't abide, I've said it before and I stand by it, are the small minority who didn't want Mancini sacked, and for that reason took against Pellegrini from even before he was appointed, and now take every opportunity to do down him down. That type of childish ignorance should be called out.

Well I must admit I did not want Mancini sacked and admittedly had my reservations about Pellegrini from the outset but like to think my arguments are objective and reflect my view on the teams performances.

Negredo will prove to be a great signing and I still have high hopes for Jovetic. I have not been overly impressed with Fernandinho and think the money could have been better spent on Ozil the one world class player available this summer. Similarly Demichaelis I believe was partially culpable for the goal at Sunderland, inexplicably stepping in front of the ball rather than covering behind James Milner. Yes the nature of forums is when things go wrong we are like a moth to flame we like to vent our spleen. Incidentally I still think we will be successful this year as our greatest nemesis has been severely weakened and no other club has picked up the baton. This unquestionably is our best chance, with our best squad of cementing our place as the best team in England. It would be a shame if that does not happen

Aww yes another fifa manager , what a ingenius idea sign özil to break up play and offer protection to the back four , Im surprised no club has picked you up, you tactical phenom

If you looked at the squad you will notice we have a number of holding midfielders. So therefore my point was to keep hold of Barry or utilise Rodwell, Garcia even Milner in the midfield role and spend the money plus a little extra on Ozil. At no point did I state to use Ozil to protect the back four.

Feel free to debate it, you may think Ozil was not available or we did not need strengthening in that area but throwing embarrassing insults does you no credit, although I admit being called a phenom is a new one.

 

[franksinatra]

That maybe adds to the frustration in some ways, this season the fact the greatest thorn in our side has retired and yet we do not appear to be taking full advantage.

I think we're also in a period of transition, and it'll take a little time before we peak, just as it took a little time for Mancini's team to peak. It's natural as we're talking about a rather large change when you talk about a new manager coming in and implementing a different way of playing. That's not to excuse the shortcomings of our away form. Just an observation on naturally how teams evolve under new managers. You have the short honeymoon period, then then a more natural incline if the manager's good enough, which I believe Pellegrini to be.

No that is a fair point and similarly we are seeing that transition at United and Chelsea at the minute also. What concerns me is we are trying to implement a different way of playing and at the minute it seems we do not have the correct personnel to adopt it, certainly defensively. The team seemed to evolve under Mancini seamlessly from Hughes reign with an improvement defensively, and points per game although I admit the bar at that time was not too high.

Still it is early days and maybe in January Pellegrini will have some players lined up to quicken the process of change although sadly it may mean a couple of favourites or players who have served us well being discarded.

 

[Akai]

 

[Proelia]

i bet the sheikhs a part animal

Which part?

Very good only noticed this now XD

 

[Proelia]

Well I must admit I did not want Mancini sacked and admittedly had my reservations about Pellegrini from the outset but like to think my arguments are objective and reflect my view on the teams performances.

Negredo will prove to be a great signing and I still have high hopes for Jovetic. I have not been overly impressed with Fernandinho and think the money could have been better spent on Ozil the one world class player available this summer. Similarly Demichaelis I believe was partially culpable for the goal at Sunderland, inexplicably stepping in front of the ball rather than covering behind James Milner. Yes the nature of forums is when things go wrong we are like a moth to flame we like to vent our spleen. Incidentally I still think we will be successful this year as our greatest nemesis has been severely weakened and no other club has picked up the baton. This unquestionably is our best chance, with our best squad of cementing our place as the best team in England. It would be a shame if that does not happen

Aww yes another fifa manager , what a ingenius idea sign özil to break up play and offer protection to the back four , Im surprised no club has picked you up, you tactical phenom

If you looked at the squad you will notice we have a number of holding midfielders. So therefore my point was to keep hold of Barry or utilise Rodwell, Garcia even Milner in the midfield role and spend the money plus a little extra on Ozil. At no point did I state to use Ozil to protect the back four.

Feel free to debate it, you may think Ozil was not available or we did not need strengthening in that area but throwing embarrassing insults does you no credit, although I admit being called a phenom is a new one.

No we dont , we have jack crockwell and javi the snail garcia

 

[razman]

fernandinho was there as well

 

[flb]

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One for Billy

It's never been his tactics that have bothered me it's the players he's using to implement them, Milner must start in Garcia's position every time

He needs to tune in and quick

 

[TGR]

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One for Billy

It's never been his tactics that have bothered me it's the players he's using to implement them, Milner must start in Garcia's position every time

He needs to tune in and quick

Milner is English...

 

[Thenumber1blue]

http://bitterandblue.sbnation.com/2013/6/19/4445692/pellegrinis-villarreal


One for Billy

It's never been his tactics that have bothered me it's the players he's using to implement them, Milner must start in Garcia's position every time

He needs to tune in and quick

Milner is English...

And also not the way forward !