Discuss Pellegrini

Eccles Blue said:
Skashion said:
FantasyIreland said:
Youre priceless.

So you don't think we need any reinforcements,youre happy with the squad and believe Pellegrini has enough tools to be capable of winning everything?
No, I think we needed and might still need reinforcements. Difference is, I think Mancini needed them as well. Mancini was outspent in 12/13 by Chelsea and the rags. This season we've outspent them.


Fantasy Ireland,

Look at my post on page 107 of this thread! We do NOT need any more players let the ones we have do the job they are paid for. I can't be bothered cutting and pasting. This is just getting boring.

Onward and upward with Manchester City, the Boys in Blue never give in.

I saw it and,no offence,i thought it was a drunken love in,so i didn't bother replying.

Obviously,as it wasn't.....i think your wrong.

I'm off to the game now,lets hope for an improved performance,that we can agree on hopefully!
 
cleavers said:
I'm not sure why that makes any difference, what the fanbase thinks doesn't matter a jot, its what those who own and run the club think, and they didn't support him, which is why he's gone.
Did you bother to read the post I was responding to? It was a direct rebuttal of GDM's post of the implied idea that Mancini split the fans and he was loved and hated. He didn't. By and large we supported him. It is you who has connected to him getting sacked. I made no such connection at all.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
cleavers said:
Skashion said:
Nonsense, I'm surprised at such a comment by you. He had the support of the vast majority of our fanbase. I think even most of the Outers acknowledge that.
I'm not sure why that makes any difference, what the fanbase thinks doesn't matter a jot, its what those who own and run the club think, and they didn't support him, which is why he's gone.
I think Skashion's right and have edited my previous post for reasons of clarity,but so are you. The reasons for his dismissal extended beyond the scope of on the pitch performances, which is why direct comparisons between him and Pellegrini's record in terms of results are...........errr.............specious.

It is too simplistic to just compare their records and say - if we don't win the league then that constitutes failure.

Nail on the head as usual GDM
 
Skashion said:
Ducado said:
It would be nice to draw a line under it all and just support the club
It would, I'm happy to, I'd love to stop talking about Mancini because it long since passed the boredom threshold, but as long as I've got gigantic hypocrites attacking Mancini for not being good enough but then refusing to be highly demanding of Pellegrini with a better squad, I'm going to keep right on. I see this moment as an opportunity for détente, not surrender.

Spot on.

+1
 
Skashion said:
FantasyIreland said:
I'm of the opinion Mancini spent more than enough during his reign for us not to require the surgery that is still required.

In summary,he didn't make the best of his budget and I didn't trust him to spend any more,it seems the club felt the same way.
I must be living in some parallel universe where Mancini didn't take us from sixth to first. From not winning trophies to winning trophies. That's where that money went. It went into moving us forward. I want the same from Pellegrini.
Then why not look forwards instead of backwards ?
 
Skashion said:
FantasyIreland said:
I'm of the opinion Mancini spent more than enough during his reign for us not to require the surgery that is still required.

In summary,he didn't make the best of his budget and I didn't trust him to spend any more,it seems the club felt the same way.
I must be living in some parallel universe where Mancini didn't take us from sixth to first. From not winning trophies to winning trophies. That's where that money went. It went into moving us forward. I want the same from Pellegrini.

True, but do you think we were still on an upward trajectory with Mancini or a downward one, however shallow a gradient?
I too want the same from Pellegrini
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
FantasyIreland said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
Just for clarification, are you saying that if Pellegrini wins nothing this season then you would want him replaced?

No.

I'm saying he should be replaced if progress from last season isn't made.

We won nothing last year and finished second.
So what do you mean by progress?
Surely that means winning something?

Anyone else fancy a stab at explaining this gem to a simpleton like myself, given that the author has taken his leave?
 
FantasyIreland said:
Eccles Blue said:
Skashion said:
No, I think we needed and might still need reinforcements. Difference is, I think Mancini needed them as well. Mancini was outspent in 12/13 by Chelsea and the rags. This season we've outspent them.


Fantasy Ireland,

Look at my post on page 107 of this thread! We do NOT need any more players let the ones we have do the job they are paid for. I can't be bothered cutting and pasting. This is just getting boring.

Onward and upward with Manchester City, the Boys in Blue never give in.

I saw it and,no offence,i thought it was a drunken love in,so i didn't bother replying.

Obviously,as it wasn't.....i think your wrong.

I'm off to the game now,lets hope for an improved performance,that we can agree on hopefully!


The last time I got drunk was 1995 and before that it was 1978 sooooooooooooooo no, it was, as I always say, my humble opinion. But why buy players and then not expect them to play for the team??? They should be able to cover for each other. So.............. we agree to differ. I might get drunk in 2014 when we win all the trophies!! :-)

Off to the match myself now and of course there will be an improved performance.


p.s. I am drunk on life though does that count? :-)
 
cleavers said:
Then why not look forwards instead of backwards ?
Why not look sideways instead of upwards? Just as meaningless. I'm only here defending Mancini and I will only do so as long as the hypocrites attack him. If they shut up so will I. I am not attacking Pellegrini. I don't do that to a manager before he's had chance to prove himself.
 

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