Discuss Pellegrini...

[blue ranger]

I genuinely think any city fan that says they expected that team yday are lying. We all love Yaya, he is a special player, but playing him in a midfield 2 against the movement that liverpool had I there with sterling was absolutely criminal.

Most fans would have started Garcia in there yday, maybe with Yaya pushed on. Garcia had a great last couple of months and should be in the team. And I'm really scratching my head with the selection of navas yday ahead of Milner.

And it's easy in hindsight but when we pulled it back to 2-2 no changes were needed. Pellers knew Kompany wasn't fit and it was very apparent that Aguero wasn't either so why risk it, or if he did want to make a Change throw on negredo.

Pellers definitely deserves another season, but his poor tactics cost us this season in most of the bug games, bayern and barca home, Chelsea home and now liverpool away. It's not good enough.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

I don't mind if a team selection doesn't work, I don't mind if there is a problem on the pitch that the opposition is exploiting. What I do mind is the manager doing fuck all about it till the car wreck occurs.
Pellegrini does this far too often I'm afraid.

Fair point but you also have to trust the players to put a shift in...we had all been saying how important the first 20 minutes were going to be and your minimum expectation should be that the team are focused and perform....neither of these things happened until we were 2 down....

 

[Deleted member 58619]

I genuinely think any city fan that says they expected that team yday are lying. We all love Yaya, he is a special player, but playing him in a midfield 2 against the movement that liverpool had I there with sterling was absolutely criminal.

Most fans would have started Garcia in there yday, maybe with Yaya pushed on. Garcia had a great last couple of months and should be in the team. And I'm really scratching my head with the selection of navas yday ahead of Milner.

And it's easy in hindsight but when we pulled it back to 2-2 no changes were needed. Pellers knew Kompany wasn't fit and it was very apparent that Aguero wasn't either so why risk it, or if he did want to make a Change throw on negredo.

Pellers definitely deserves another season, but his poor tactics cost us this season in most of the big games, bayern and barca home, Chelsea home and now liverpool away. It's not good enough.

 

[Marvin]

I don't agree about playing not to lose at Anfield. Braver to stick by your game and what has made you what you are.

You don't have players like Silva, Yaya etc and go there and play not to lose

We outplayed them. It was a great fightback undermined by individual error

Unfortunately no City can truly say we are a better team than Liverpool at the moment. We have the potential to be, but we have players missing, and players playing below their best due to injury. And that's part of football.

The weak points are two-fold

1) Poor start to the season where we didn't know what we were doing, particularly away - inevitable. That uncertainty comes with managerial change. or can come.

2) Injury to key players. We have lost a lot of players for lengthy periods. Is this inevitable, and part of football? Look at Arsenal and Man Utd, arguably they have been affected to a similar degree. Or does the sports science, management of players fitness, and the training need looking at? Certainly needs reviewing.

I like Pellegrini, but I must admit to having a blind spot with managers. I will defend them sometimes because they are the City manager

 

[Gabriel]

I don't agree about playing not to lose at Anfield. Braver to stick by your game and what has made you what you are.

You don't have players like Silva, Yaya etc and go there and play not to lose

We outplayed them. It was a great fightback undermined by individual error

Unfortunately no City can truly say we are a better team than Liverpool at the moment. We have the potential to be, but we have players missing, and players playing below their best due to injury. And that's part of football.

The weak points are two-fold

1) Poor start to the season where we didn't know what we were doing, particularly away - inevitable. That uncertainty comes with managerial change. or can come.

2) Injury to key players. We have lost a lot of players for lengthy periods. Is this inevitable, and part of football? Look at Arsenal and Man Utd, arguably they have been affected to a similar degree. Or does the sports science, management of players fitness, and the training need looking at? Certainly needs reviewing.

I like Pellegrini, but I must admit to having a blind spot with managers. I will defend them sometimes because they are the City manager

Some good points in there, but I'm not sure that the problems are two-fold. Even if (should be when) we have all our players back, the manager is going to have to learn to utilise them more and extract the best out of them all, not just a select nucleus. Moreover, he may have to recognise that competing on all four fronts is simply unrealistic unless we have a full squad upon which we can call. So, regardless of how the season finishes, now, there has to be a realisation that mistakes have been made, and Pellegrini cannot be excluded.

 

[Rammy Blue]

I don't mind if a team selection doesn't work, I don't mind if there is a problem on the pitch that the opposition is exploiting. What I do mind is the manager doing fuck all about it till the car wreck occurs.
Pellegrini does this far too often I'm afraid.

His excuse would be he has trust in his players to turn it around because he's "a nice guy". Top manager change it straight away not him though useless ****

Have you not been banned yet?

 

[flb]

Manuel has been a victim of circumstance this season, no other manager has had to implement such a radical change in the style of play as he has this season, weve gone from defending deep in a zonal system to a completely different style of attacking football, im amazed quite frankly that we have sustained such a good challenge on four fronts with such crippling injuries to major players throughout the season.Wenger,Mourinho, Rodgers have just continued there clubs style of play without having to make drastic changes to there style of play.

Two games in hand and seven points behind,Sunderland off unluckily due to weather and United game re arranged due to cup final, put us those six points on our total and we are one behind with four to play,

We win our six and Chelsea and Liverpool win three and draw one and we are champions.

 

[jaiguruKun]

Provided we qualify for CL he deserves another season. I think the job is Viera's at the end of next season.

The thing is with Pelle is that his biggest strength is also his biggest weakness. He keeps things very simple and allows players to express themselves without being too distracted by formations and tactics. It means our attacking performances are very consistent and we are capable of scoring lots of goals against any opposition. The problem is that when his approach comes up against the very best teams and coaches it comes up short.

Yesterday everyone apart from Pellegrini knew we needed an extra man in the middle to stifle Liverpool in the first half an hour when they have started games so well. Instead he played exactly the same side as he has been doing. The theory being that we are on a good run of form recently so why change a winning side? It was a big risk that could have paid off. However, if we'd started Garcia in the middle alongside yaya and ferna I doubt we'd have been 2-0 down with half an hour gone.

Similarly it didn't take a genius to figure out that Milner was by far the better option than Navas yesterday.

The substitution of Dzeko for Aguero was also poorly thought out. We were dominating the game at that stage. It was change for changes sake. I would have left it the same personally. If he had to bring Aguero on it should have been Nasri coming off and Aguero playing deeper. Going like for like was the only thing Pellegrini would consider doing.

In conclusion, he probably deserves another season.

 

[robbieh]

While Pellegrini is obviously a better manager than Hughes I still get the feeling we are treading water and could be doing so much better. As I have said before winning multiple trophies requires both a winning set of players and a coach to maximise their potential.


He will be given money to spend and expected to win the league next season but if we are adrift at Christmas the axe should fall just as it did with Hughes.

 

[chris85mcfc]

I think its vital that next season we prioritise the league and the Champions league, with the FA cup and League Cup being used to play some of the young lads and players that need a game.

We have paid the price for having all our best players out at some point of the season and its clear we have been too reliant on two or three of them.

The guy I sit next to is a right moaning tw*t when were 4-0 up hes screaming for Pellegrini to take Aguero, Silva, Yaya off etc and im sat there thinking 'are you joking, I want us to get another few goals yet you soppy sod'

Now looking back I'm thinking that he might actually be right to a certain extent :)