Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2014/15 (continued)

[Kippax.]

wonder if fergie is available?

 

[Ray78]

wonder if fergie is available?

Arf.

 

[Leech]

On a one year contract Rafa would be perfect.

Come in, drill the defense, send us on a good European run (we actually WOULD have a chance vs the elite with him in charge), basically prep` the ground for another tilt at Pep the following year - unless of course Rafa did so well that we no longer wanted Pep.

For all his critics the football his sides play isn't thatbad, could anyone actually say the likes of Gerrard/Alonso/Garcia/Torres were never fun to watch when playing for Liverpool?

He couldn't get Napoli past the opening CL knockout round and it was deemed massive failure, he also failed top progress them out of the group last season.

At Inter he was atrocious in Europe and he only won the EL with Chelsea because they had the most well equipped team in the competition, should never have been in the tournament in the first place because how they failed to get out of the CL group was a mystery considering the talent they had, plus the team was Champions League winners going into that tournament.

Rafa was great ten years ago, not anymore.

Don't think the naturally cautious, defensive, tactical nature of Italian teams particularly suits him, he has nothing to add to them. In England his prowess is indisputable.

In Europe in 2013-2014 he finished level on points with Dortmund and Arsenal, going out only on goal difference with clearly the weakest squad. This season his side were drawn against Bilbao, a decent side, and had a bit of a shocker in the second leg. They're one of the favourites for the Europa League though.

 

[sam-caddick]

On a one year contract Rafa would be perfect.

Come in, drill the defense, send us on a good European run (we actually WOULD have a chance vs the elite with him in charge), basically prep` the ground for another tilt at Pep the following year - unless of course Rafa did so well that we no longer wanted Pep.

For all his critics the football his sides play isn't thatbad, could anyone actually say the likes of Gerrard/Alonso/Garcia/Torres were never fun to watch when playing for Liverpool?

He couldn't get Napoli past the opening CL knockout round and it was deemed massive failure, he also failed top progress them out of the group last season.

At Inter he was atrocious in Europe and he only won the EL with Chelsea because they had the most well equipped team in the competition, should never have been in the tournament in the first place because how they failed to get out of the CL group was a mystery considering the talent they had, plus the team was Champions League winners going into that tournament.

Rafa was great ten years ago, not anymore.

Don't think the naturally cautious, defensive, tactical nature of Italian teams particularly suits him, he has nothing to add to them. In England his prowess is indisputable.

In Europe in 2013-2014 he finished level on points with Dortmund and Arsenal, going out only on goal difference with clearly the weakest squad. This season his side were drawn against Bilbao, a decent side, and had a bit of a shocker in the second leg. They're one of the favourites for the Europa League though.

That's what Rafa is now though, a great Europa League level manager.

He was CL quality in the 00's, since then a new generation has come around and have left him behind.

 

[moomba]

In England his prowess is indisputable.

Really?

 

[Leech]

He couldn't get Napoli past the opening CL knockout round and it was deemed massive failure, he also failed top progress them out of the group last season.

At Inter he was atrocious in Europe and he only won the EL with Chelsea because they had the most well equipped team in the competition, should never have been in the tournament in the first place because how they failed to get out of the CL group was a mystery considering the talent they had, plus the team was Champions League winners going into that tournament.

Rafa was great ten years ago, not anymore.

Don't think the naturally cautious, defensive, tactical nature of Italian teams particularly suits him, he has nothing to add to them. In England his prowess is indisputable.

In Europe in 2013-2014 he finished level on points with Dortmund and Arsenal, going out only on goal difference with clearly the weakest squad. This season his side were drawn against Bilbao, a decent side, and had a bit of a shocker in the second leg. They're one of the favourites for the Europa League though.

That's what Rafa is now though, a great Europa League level manager.

He was CL quality in the 00's, since then a new generation has come around and have left him behind.

When has he had the chance to manage an elite side in the Champions League recently?

 

[Leech]

In England his prowess is indisputable.

Really?

Established Liverpool as a European heavyweight for the first time since the 80s until the Gillett/Hicks saga and then rescued Chelsea from freefall to a comfortable Champions League qualification and another European trophy.

Not particularly shabby.

 

[chesterbells]

I wouldn't call an overly cautious manager a 'winner'.

Yet, he clearly is......... with eleven major trophies in England, Italy and Spain.

Another way of looking at it is that he hasn't won a league title in over a decade. Admittedly you could've levelled the same accusation at Pellegrini before we appointed him, but I'm not sure Benitez is a serial winner.

Are we going to get someone with a better trophy record than Rafa to come on a one year contract?
Good choice for me

 

[chesterbells]

Mourinho's not a "winner"

Fucking lol

Wumming in the extreme

 

[chesterbells]

On a one year contract Rafa would be perfect.

Come in, drill the defense, send us on a good European run (we actually WOULD have a chance vs the elite with him in charge), basically prep` the ground for another tilt at Pep the following year - unless of course Rafa did so well that we no longer wanted Pep.

For all his critics the football his sides play isn't thatbad, could anyone actually say the likes of Gerrard/Alonso/Garcia/Torres were never fun to watch when playing for Liverpool?

Yep