Discussion: Manuel Pellegrini 2014/15 (continued)

[BlueRockape]

The way I see it there is 2 ways to look at this we either let him go now and the media will spin it as another merry go round in Citys managerial position and we never give them a chance. Or we keep him till the summer hope we get top 4 and then replace him and let our media guys spin it that a replacement became available that we could not turn down.

In all honesty I would rather he stay and see Yaya. Dezeko, Bony, Milner and Navas fuck off.

Bony? give the lad a chance!

Everything was going fine before he joined somebody has to take the fall for this. Either the opening of the new training ground half way through a season or an overpriced knee jerk reaction purchase. Unfortunately this is all Bonys fault and he needs to be booted to bring the calmer back into the camp.

WTF this has got to be a Clarkie

 

[FanchesterCity]

Bony? give the lad a chance!

Everything was going fine before he joined somebody has to take the fall for this. Either the opening of the new training ground half way through a season or an overpriced knee jerk reaction purchase. Unfortunately this is all Bonys fault and he needs to be booted to bring the calmer back into the camp.

WTF this has got to be a Clarkie

No, he's right. We even had to do without beer and working loos at the recent water cut off at the stadium..... we've been cursed since new year.
We've ditched Viagogo and got voodoo in return.

 

[BlueRockape]

Everything was going fine before he joined somebody has to take the fall for this. Either the opening of the new training ground half way through a season or an overpriced knee jerk reaction purchase. Unfortunately this is all Bonys fault and he needs to be booted to bring the calmer back into the camp.

WTF this has got to be a Clarkie

No, he's right. We even had to do without beer and working loos at the recent water cut off at the stadium..... we've been cursed since new year.
We've ditched Viagogo and got voodoo in return.

OH NO its the gipsy curse :-)

 

[Shaelumstash]

Actually the whole point in context was that if you're not a dickhead to people then when things turn bad, you can always turn them back around because the players respect you and you respect them. When things go bad and you're Van Gaal then you're dead in the water.

If Mancini had Pellegrini's demeanour then he'd still be our manager despite his bad season. If Pellegrini had Mancini's demeanour he'd already have gotten the sack. Also worth noting that the things coming out of our boardroom are that Pellegrini won't be sacked and will be given another chance next year after a full summer behind him.

This feels weird having to explain it to people who think management of people in football is some crazily special environment totally different to management of people elsewhere, but if you want to get the best out of somebody then you have to treat them with respect. People know when they've done well and when they haven't and you banging on about it isn't helping anybody but your own frustrations.

Ferguson pointed out that people have changed and he's right to a degree but also football has become a much more psychologically focused. Even Mourinho doesn't bollock his players in that way and he's probably the best management psychologist out there working today.

It's funny to me that people talk about Pellegrini being a dinosaur because he's playing 4-4-2 and then on the other hand suggesting that he should be jumping around more on the touchline and shouting at people in the dressing room. It shows a very old fashioned and out of date understanding on the game as it is today.

You should maybe send your post to the managerial "dinosaurs" of Mourinho and Guadiola because I can guarantee both of them would be shouting and jumping around on the touchline had their team played like we did on Sunday.

You are correct that the drill sergeant style of management is outdated and doesn't work with millionaire footballers. However, the nice guy pushover with no back bone approach doesn't work either at the top level. Pellegrini and Woy Hodgson being two prime examples. It's fine during the good times with a happy camp, but when standards drop players need a manager they respect to make sure standards don't drop. Pellegrini clearly doesn't command that respect.

Can I have access to that dressing room camera you have please that allows you to know so much about how Pellegrini and Hodgson talk to their players after a disappointing result?

Because I suspect you've massively oversimplified and stereotyped them to suit your point. Pellegrini isn't somebody who will NEVER stand up to his players. He's a professional manager in one of the highest standards of sport in the entire world, if you can sum up what you think his problem is in management in a sentence then let's just say that nobody can suggest you're overthinking things.

Yes of course, Pellegrini's the Olympic athlete of managers, yadda yadda yadda, not looked too Olympian in 2015 has he?

Strange, you're questioning my opinion of Pellegrini, yet you're suggesting "top managers" don't jump around on the touchline or shout in the dressing room. I'm not sure if you've got a camera in EVERY dressing room, but if not, I'd suggest you're speculating too? Clearly your speculation is much more intelligent and considered than mine. Despite the fact I've seen Mourinho and Pep screaming, shouting and jumping on the touchline with my own eyes. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Pellegrini comes across as a nice guy who's inoffensive, doesn't rock the boat or create much conflict. Perhaps he's completely different behind closed doors, but I'd assume he isn't.

 

[the originalkippaxman]

Everything was going fine before he joined somebody has to take the fall for this. Either the opening of the new training ground half way through a season or an overpriced knee jerk reaction purchase. Unfortunately this is all Bonys fault and he needs to be booted to bring the calmer back into the camp.

WTF this has got to be a Clarkie

No, he's right. We even had to do without beer and working loos at the recent water cut off at the stadium..... we've been cursed since new year.
We've ditched Viagogo and got voodoo in return.

Exactly darker powers are working against us on and off the pitch. All started when Bony arrived I think a Ghana voodoo priest has cursed him and Yaya after their defeat in the AFCON.

We need to sacrifice some lamb or something prior to the game on Sunday to break the curse.

 

[FanchesterCity]

WTF this has got to be a Clarkie

No, he's right. We even had to do without beer and working loos at the recent water cut off at the stadium..... we've been cursed since new year.
We've ditched Viagogo and got voodoo in return.

Exactly darker powers are working against us on and off the pitch. All started when Bony arrived I think a Ghana voodoo priest has cursed him and Yaya after their defeat in the AFCON.

We need to sacrifice some lamb or something prior to the game on Sunday to break the curse.

We need a goat to feed, the please the gods.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Exactly darker powers are working against us on and off the pitch. All started when Bony arrived I think a Ghana voodoo priest has cursed him and Yaya after their defeat in the AFCON.

We need to sacrifice some lamb or something prior to the game on Sunday to break the curse.

More like the Bony transfer split an already temperamental squad in two. Signing him put all the Balkan lads nose out of joint.

Yaya is Bony's mate and when he plays Yaya always looks to pass to him first ahead of Aguero. Nasri is Yaya's mate etc, etc.

At times the players behave like schoolkids. Couple that with a captain who is bang out of form and (rightly) doesn't believe in
the manager's suicidal attacking policy then I think signing Bony probably was a key element in our collapse. I feel really
sorry for him.I bet he didn't realise the nest of vipers he was joining.

 

[supercity88]

WTF this has got to be a Clarkie

No, he's right. We even had to do without beer and working loos at the recent water cut off at the stadium..... we've been cursed since new year.
We've ditched Viagogo and got voodoo in return.

Exactly darker powers are working against us on and off the pitch. All started when Bony arrived I think a Ghana voodoo priest has cursed him and Yaya after their defeat in the AFCON.

We need to sacrifice some lamb or something prior to the game on Sunday to break the curse.

Goat would be better than lamb. Does anyone know a goat, preferably with connections to City?

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Exactly darker powers are working against us on and off the pitch. All started when Bony arrived I think a Ghana voodoo priest has cursed him and Yaya after their defeat in the AFCON.

We need to sacrifice some lamb or something prior to the game on Sunday to break the curse.

More like the Bony transfer split an already temperamental squad in two. Signing him put all the Balkan lads nose out of joint.

Yaya is Bony's mate and when he plays Yaya always looks to pass to him first ahead of Aguero. Nasri is Yaya's mate etc, etc.

At times the players behave like schoolkids. Couple that with a captain who is bang out of form and (rightly) doesn't believe in
the manager's suicidal attacking policy then I think signing Bony probably was a key element in our collapse. I feel really
sorry for him.I bet he didn't realise the nest of vipers he was joining.

Other than that, I think signing him was a good bit of business.

 

[FanchesterCity]

Exactly darker powers are working against us on and off the pitch. All started when Bony arrived I think a Ghana voodoo priest has cursed him and Yaya after their defeat in the AFCON.

We need to sacrifice some lamb or something prior to the game on Sunday to break the curse.

More like the Bony transfer split an already temperamental squad in two. Signing him put all the Balkan lads nose out of joint.

Yaya is Bony's mate and when he plays Yaya always looks to pass to him first ahead of Aguero. Nasri is Yaya's mate etc, etc.

At times the players behave like schoolkids. Couple that with a captain who is bang out of form and (rightly) doesn't believe in
the manager's suicidal attacking policy then I think signing Bony probably was a key element in our collapse. I feel really
sorry for him.I bet he didn't realise the nest of vipers he was joining.

A nest of vipers would have some venom!.... more like a murder of crows