Well observed, mate. It's astonishing how little some of our supporters have come to appreciate this and factor it in when rushing to judge. Foreign players frequently need a season to adapt to playing in this country. It's an entirely different footballing experience from top to bottom.There just seems to be an inherrent impatience with our new signings. Very few land running and very few fail to adapt.
Hate this kind of post. Do you honestly think when people criticise managers or players it is on the basis that they believe they can do better themselves, or do you just think nobody is in a position to criticise anyone about anything unless they can do better themselves? Either way, you'd be wrong.
We'll see, those who think we won't are in for a pleasant surprise.To answer your question honestly, I genuinely believe there are some on here that believe they know better than Pellegrini. I think also some posters are just venting their spleens at some linet ups we have seen. I'm happy to have a reasoned debate about anything on the forum, as that's what it is all about, but when posters post in a tone of "he is clueless", it borders on being pathetic.
Someone posted a page or two back that if and when we do get Pep, we will not necessarily move to the next level, but that appears non negotiable to some.
Someone posted a page or two back that if and when we do get Pep, we will not necessarily move to the next level, but that appears non negotiable to some.
Ric, they will point to Guardiola, who's managed to take Bayern backwards, and not by a little by a lot. Guardiola who continues to display a glaring lack of tactical awareness. Who's team lose to almost any team with players somewhere even close to the players he has. From Porto to Arsenal, anyone playing counter attacking football, with pace will get results against Bayern. Not to mention the two total humbelings they got from Real & Bayern, not long after Bayern destroyed Barcelona.
He's taken a record breaking Bayern team who won the league by 25+ points, a side that achieved 91 points to today's Bayern. He won the league with just 79 points nothing else.
The mighty Pep has taken quadruple winning, point record breaking CL champions. To Bundesliga champions with with 12 less points and just 1 trophy in 2 years.
The sad irony is, Pellegrini fans will be Pep fans, love his attacking style, his gung ho attitude, those that don't like Pellegrini, will hate Pep, and those that watch a lot of European football will simply understand that Pep & Pellegrini are no different.
They are rigid in their style of play and would prefer to lose playing their way than win playing another way.
I asked it on the Pep thread, if Pellegrini managed Bayern's players to the performance and result against Arsenal, what would they say? After 10 minutes I could see Bayern would get caught on the break. Pep couldn't see it, then brought off his centre mids. Terrible management. Yet we laud him.
His management at Bayern has been average at best and Pellegrini would match his achievements comfortably at Bayern.
Pellegrini has won a double. I'd be stunned if he didn't win the league this year, perhaps another trophy to boot. Yet he's against the World's greatest manager. Looks like he's put Jose well in his place.
Someone asked what Pellegrini does well, he wins games. Lots of games. He plays fantastically attractive football. His players seem to love him, the performances seem to back that up.
Does he make mistakes? Yes. That's what happens. Ferguson, the PL's greatest manager threw away a huge lead, lost the league. Guardiola has been bumped by almost any team with the equivilent level of players in the past few years, fuck me even treble winners Barcelons got humped by Guidetti and his crew just 3 weeks ago. Teams lose, teams can look shit.
As a Pellegrini fan, I'll admit he has faults, he makes mistakes. The funny thing is, those that don't rate him, will never give him credit. Facts are, 3 out of our last 4 wins have come on the back of great managerial decissions. Decissions not popular with the fans.
I hope Guardiola comes, he's perfect for our progression, it's a simple fact though. Those who have issues with Manuel will have issues with Pep. As they both present the same frailties.
I'm curious as to what this next level is that we're reaching for. We've been an incredible team since Pellegrini came in, and that is reflected in our goal scoring records, or w/d/l record, etc. Our best players have had their best seasons at the club since he's come in. Granted we haven't won the CL but then, unless I'm mistaken Guardiola didn't win the CL last season even though he had the domestic league wrapped up in March. He didn't win it the year before either. Just goes to show that that 'level' that people are reaching for isn't something as simple as 'bring in a new manager', even someone as highly rated as Pep.
That isn't a slight on Pep btw, I would love him as our manager. He's absolutely the perfect fit for our set up and I"m almost certain that he probably will end up managing us. But it's curious that people think there'll be some enormous leap in quality once he comes in. The quality is already there. Maybe we'll keep the ball more and better under Pep and maybe we'll press better under him. But we will still have to beat Madrid/Barca/Bayern to win the CL, and those clubs will still have top players.
The 'discussion' last night was like watching a car crash in slow motion. Pellegrini was characterised as the Chilean Moyes in his first season, was slaughtered for being out tacticed by Fat Sam last season, and is now no better than Pardew and Monk according to the same people. It's only noise on an internet forum and ultimately it does nothing but serve to highlight the rampant stupidity of the people posting such opinions.
Great post made and surefire to stir the hornets nest of Peller haters.