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Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}
sam-caddick
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Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
I wouldn't mind him personally, I think tactically he is decent and he knows the English game.
Winning the Copa Libertadores isn't easy and he has done that which both Simeone and Pellegrini failed to do.
Ducado said:sam-caddick said:Ole in Argentina also linking Sabella to City apparently.
It must be true then
I wouldn't mind him personally, I think tactically he is decent and he knows the English game.
Winning the Copa Libertadores isn't easy and he has done that which both Simeone and Pellegrini failed to do.
Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
It's not a gamble I would want the club to take. Martino failed at Barcelona. The only positive is Sheikh Mansour wanted him as boss for Al Jazira.
sam-caddick said:Ducado said:sam-caddick said:Ole in Argentina also linking Sabella to City apparently.
It must be true then
I wouldn't mind him personally, I think tactically he is decent and he knows the English game.
Winning the Copa Libertadores isn't easy and he has done that which both Simeone and Pellegrini failed to do.
It's not a gamble I would want the club to take. Martino failed at Barcelona. The only positive is Sheikh Mansour wanted him as boss for Al Jazira.
Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
How Al Jazira’s good grace in 2011 changed Alejandro Sabella’s career and Argentina’s destiny
Amith Passela
July 12, 2014 Updated: July 13, 2014 01:12 AM
Argentina coach Alejandro Sabella says Lionel Messi deserves Golden Ball award
Talent alone is not enough, says new Al Jazira manager Eric Gerets
Topics: Al Jazira Football Club
Argentina’s run to the final of the 2014 World Cup may never have happened had it not been for the good graces of Arabian Gulf League club Al Jazira.
In May 2011, the Brazilian, Abel Braga, announced he would leave Al Jazira after he had just led the club to their first UAE league title, which prompted officials to approach Alejandro Sabella to take over.
The former Estudiantes manager, then 56, flew to the UAE and spent two weeks in Abu Dhabi.
He attended a couple of matches as Jazira won the President’s Cup to complete a double and end Braga’s three-year tenure in style.
On June 10, Sabella signed a one-year deal to coach at the Mohammed bin Zayed stadium. The Argentine returned home and planned to be back in the UAE in July to begin training for the 2011/12 season.
Then his country came calling.
After Argentina’s poor performance at the 2011 Copa America, where they were knocked out in the quarter-finals by Uruguay, Sergio Batista stepped down as manager and Sabella was offered the job.
He delayed his planned July flight to the UAE and began negotiations for what he described as “one of the biggest jobs in football”.
Jazira allowed Sabella to renege on his contract and, with their blessing, his appointment as the new manager of Argentina was confirmed on August 2, 2011.
At the time, Sheikh Hamdan bin Zayed, Jazira’s Honorary Chairman, said the club “respected” Sabella’s decision and they did not even ask for compensation
“Sabella was given the opportunity to manage his country and we, as a club, must respect and understand his decision,” said a club spokesman. “We wish him well with Argentina.
“This is, after all, one of the best teams in international football with Lionel Messi, the best player in the world, so it’s not as if Sabella turned us down for a small club.
“It says a lot for Al Jazira’s ambition that we appointed a man who is deemed good enough to coach such a powerful football nation.
“He has gone to something bigger and better, so we are philosophical about the past weeks’ events.”
Read more: Al Jazira new signing Mirko Vucinic already ‘feels right at home’
Saleh Basheer, the Jazira centre-back who moved to Sharjah, had some good memories of Sabella, who on Sunday night leads Argentina into the World Cup final against Germany.
While he was in Abu Dhabi, club management arranged a boat trip for Sabella and the players to get to know each other.
“From the little time I spent with Sabella, I can only say he was completely different from Braga in many ways,” Basheer said.
“To start with, Braga didn’t want to listen to the players, instead he wanted the players to listen to him. Braga had an autocratic attitude but Sabella seemed different and he gave the impression as a kind and gentle person.
“It is hard to speak of a person whom you meet only once and never got to work under him. But he gave a good feeling to us. He wanted to know the opinions of the players and was keen in listening to what we had to say.
“It was a pity we didn’t get a chance to work under him as he became the coach of Argentina. Having taken the team to the final now I feel he made a good decision. I can only send him my silent good wishes.”
Nobody can blame Sabella for choosing country over club, said Abdulla Qasem, the Jazira midfielder.
“What can we say? I don’t know how difficult it was for Sabella to arrive at a decision at that time but he chose the right one. Argentina are in the final,” said Qasem
Jazira have had six different managers since: Franky Vercauteren (Belgium), Caio Junior and Paulo Bonamigo (both from Brazil), Luis Milla (Spain) and Walter Zenga (Italy). Eric Gerets (Belgium) was unveiled as the new coach this summer. The 2010/11 title remains Jazira’s last.
“I wouldn’t know exactly what we would have achieved had Sabella decided to remain at Jazira,” said Qasem.
“To play in the World Cup, leave aside winning it, is the dream of every player and I may even say every coach. So the prospect of taking Argentina to the World Cup was a bigger objective for Sabella.”
http://www.thenational.ae/sport/foo...jandro-sabellas-career-and-argentinas-destiny
How Al Jazira’s good grace in 2011 changed Alejandro Sabella’s career and Argentina’s destiny
Amith Passela
July 12, 2014 Updated: July 13, 2014 01:12 AM
Argentina coach Alejandro Sabella says Lionel Messi deserves Golden Ball award
Talent alone is not enough, says new Al Jazira manager Eric Gerets
Topics: Al Jazira Football Club
Argentina’s run to the final of the 2014 World Cup may never have happened had it not been for the good graces of Arabian Gulf League club Al Jazira.
In May 2011, the Brazilian, Abel Braga, announced he would leave Al Jazira after he had just led the club to their first UAE league title, which prompted officials to approach Alejandro Sabella to take over.
The former Estudiantes manager, then 56, flew to the UAE and spent two weeks in Abu Dhabi.
He attended a couple of matches as Jazira won the President’s Cup to complete a double and end Braga’s three-year tenure in style.
On June 10, Sabella signed a one-year deal to coach at the Mohammed bin Zayed stadium. The Argentine returned home and planned to be back in the UAE in July to begin training for the 2011/12 season.
Then his country came calling.
After Argentina’s poor performance at the 2011 Copa America, where they were knocked out in the quarter-finals by Uruguay, Sergio Batista stepped down as manager and Sabella was offered the job.
He delayed his planned July flight to the UAE and began negotiations for what he described as “one of the biggest jobs in football”.
Jazira allowed Sabella to renege on his contract and, with their blessing, his appointment as the new manager of Argentina was confirmed on August 2, 2011.
At the time, Sheikh Hamdan bin Zayed, Jazira’s Honorary Chairman, said the club “respected” Sabella’s decision and they did not even ask for compensation
“Sabella was given the opportunity to manage his country and we, as a club, must respect and understand his decision,” said a club spokesman. “We wish him well with Argentina.
“This is, after all, one of the best teams in international football with Lionel Messi, the best player in the world, so it’s not as if Sabella turned us down for a small club.
“It says a lot for Al Jazira’s ambition that we appointed a man who is deemed good enough to coach such a powerful football nation.
“He has gone to something bigger and better, so we are philosophical about the past weeks’ events.”
Read more: Al Jazira new signing Mirko Vucinic already ‘feels right at home’
Saleh Basheer, the Jazira centre-back who moved to Sharjah, had some good memories of Sabella, who on Sunday night leads Argentina into the World Cup final against Germany.
While he was in Abu Dhabi, club management arranged a boat trip for Sabella and the players to get to know each other.
“From the little time I spent with Sabella, I can only say he was completely different from Braga in many ways,” Basheer said.
“To start with, Braga didn’t want to listen to the players, instead he wanted the players to listen to him. Braga had an autocratic attitude but Sabella seemed different and he gave the impression as a kind and gentle person.
“It is hard to speak of a person whom you meet only once and never got to work under him. But he gave a good feeling to us. He wanted to know the opinions of the players and was keen in listening to what we had to say.
“It was a pity we didn’t get a chance to work under him as he became the coach of Argentina. Having taken the team to the final now I feel he made a good decision. I can only send him my silent good wishes.”
Nobody can blame Sabella for choosing country over club, said Abdulla Qasem, the Jazira midfielder.
“What can we say? I don’t know how difficult it was for Sabella to arrive at a decision at that time but he chose the right one. Argentina are in the final,” said Qasem
Jazira have had six different managers since: Franky Vercauteren (Belgium), Caio Junior and Paulo Bonamigo (both from Brazil), Luis Milla (Spain) and Walter Zenga (Italy). Eric Gerets (Belgium) was unveiled as the new coach this summer. The 2010/11 title remains Jazira’s last.
“I wouldn’t know exactly what we would have achieved had Sabella decided to remain at Jazira,” said Qasem.
“To play in the World Cup, leave aside winning it, is the dream of every player and I may even say every coach. So the prospect of taking Argentina to the World Cup was a bigger objective for Sabella.”
http://www.thenational.ae/sport/foo...jandro-sabellas-career-and-argentinas-destiny
sam-caddick
Well-Known Member
Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
Martino just didn't fit the Barcelona philosophy, he wanted them to play more direct with lots more long balls for example and I think as lot of people in and around the club thought her only got the job because of a family relationship between his and the Messi's.
He had a decent track record coming from South America doing well with Newell's and Paraguay but he didn't win the Copa Libertadores like Sabella did.
I would be happy for City to get Sabella.
Ray78 said:sam-caddick said:Ducado said:It must be true then
I wouldn't mind him personally, I think tactically he is decent and he knows the English game.
Winning the Copa Libertadores isn't easy and he has done that which both Simeone and Pellegrini failed to do.
It's not a gamble I would want the club to take. Martino failed at Barcelona. The only positive is Sheikh Mansour wanted him as boss for Al Jazira.
Martino just didn't fit the Barcelona philosophy, he wanted them to play more direct with lots more long balls for example and I think as lot of people in and around the club thought her only got the job because of a family relationship between his and the Messi's.
He had a decent track record coming from South America doing well with Newell's and Paraguay but he didn't win the Copa Libertadores like Sabella did.
I would be happy for City to get Sabella.
Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
He spent most of his coaching career as assistant manager and has had only one season experience at club level.
sam-caddick said:Ray78 said:sam-caddick said:I wouldn't mind him personally, I think tactically he is decent and he knows the English game.
Winning the Copa Libertadores isn't easy and he has done that which both Simeone and Pellegrini failed to do.
It's not a gamble I would want the club to take. Martino failed at Barcelona. The only positive is Sheikh Mansour wanted him as boss for Al Jazira.
Martino just didn't fit the Barcelona philosophy, he wanted them to play more direct with lots more long balls for example and I think as lot of people in and around the club thought her only got the job because of a family relationship between his and the Messi's.
He had a decent track record coming from South America doing well with Newell's and Paraguay but he didn't win the Copa Libertadores like Sabella did.
I would be happy for City to get Sabella.
He spent most of his coaching career as assistant manager and has had only one season experience at club level.
Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
Been saying De Boer for months.
He is 80/1 too which a great price.
MaineRoadBlue said:dica said:there is only one who suits our team the best and its frank the boer i think.
guardiola would be perfect but he stays at munich...maybe in the future...the sucessor of de boer..
frank de boer is a little tactical genius like pep. their tactics are almost the same or follow the same direction. play play play and play with as much as possible midfielders to dominate the game and keep the opposition of the ball. And immediately after they get the ball high aggressive pressing all overr the pitch. so this is the barca/ajax principle and this it the aim of txiki and soriano so he would fit pertfectly. 4-3-3 is also the system they want to play from youth up to senior team. Moreover he is a active managers who reacts on game situations and he understands what he is doing! first game vs psv this season he plays a lot midfielders to dominate but psv is too good so he switches his preferred tactic the secong leg against them to win at eindhoven 3:1 with counter attacking...so he switches hus tactis to the oppositon!and he raises his voice at the game not as pellegrinin who stays calm all the time...we need a bit more passion at least our players need it!
klopp also good manager but he is only high aggressive counter pressing...so not the game we want to go for the future. we want to dominate!
ancelotti good managers but he will stay and i don't like him that much...i can't imagine seeing him at the line for us.
diego simeone: as klopp high aggressive pressing and give the ball the opposition..let them make the game and then counter! is not our style we are and txiki looking for ..we want to be a europe force that dominates like barca and munich and i think thats the most attractive way i like it the mosz to see my team in possision all the time..would become furious if the others play with the ball...like diegk simeone and klopp tactics.
rodgers: he will stay...although he also plays the 4-3-3
Koeman: 4-3-3 but i think de boer is a bit better and i like him more. he fits better on the line for us than koeman
Benitez: oh no please! don't get him! dont like him...the worst case if he is appointed. no real tactic knowledge for me and noo! he doesnt fit!
So sign frank de boer please and in future pep may want to come to us when frank installed the game pep alsi wants to play! would be perfect!
Completely agree.
Been saying De Boer for months.
He is 80/1 too which a great price.
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Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
Sam, how do you know Sabella watches The Premiership?
Sam, how do you know Sabella watches The Premiership?
Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
If they do decide to replace Pelle at the end of the season, I get the feeling it will be Koeman.
Mainly because he has had a year in the PL which he has done well with limited resources, knows Txixi and looks to be able to adjust his tactics when required.
If they do decide to replace Pelle at the end of the season, I get the feeling it will be Koeman.
Mainly because he has had a year in the PL which he has done well with limited resources, knows Txixi and looks to be able to adjust his tactics when required.
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Re: Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements
Clearly Pellegrini's major failing, as evidenced by the media scrutiny over the last 48 hours, is his inability to beat Barcelona in the last 16 of the CL.
So, I think we should hire the last manager to BEAT BARCA TWICE in the Last 16 of the Champions League. After all, there must be a boatload of them, if it is so easy, right?!
We've played 4-4-2, 4-4-1 (more than once!) and 4-2-3-1 but Barca are just a better team than City. Anyone that cannot see that is deluded. That given, we need to look at the players, their efforts, their output, and ultimately their ability to compete against the likes of Barca. Sadly, I think we will find ourselves lacking in all respects.
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. I'm not sure ANY manager in the world could have beaten Barca over the two legs they played against us. If you know someone who would, let's sign him up!
Clearly Pellegrini's major failing, as evidenced by the media scrutiny over the last 48 hours, is his inability to beat Barcelona in the last 16 of the CL.
So, I think we should hire the last manager to BEAT BARCA TWICE in the Last 16 of the Champions League. After all, there must be a boatload of them, if it is so easy, right?!
We've played 4-4-2, 4-4-1 (more than once!) and 4-2-3-1 but Barca are just a better team than City. Anyone that cannot see that is deluded. That given, we need to look at the players, their efforts, their output, and ultimately their ability to compete against the likes of Barca. Sadly, I think we will find ourselves lacking in all respects.
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. I'm not sure ANY manager in the world could have beaten Barca over the two legs they played against us. If you know someone who would, let's sign him up!