Discussion: Potential Pellegrini Replacements {merged}

[LoveCity]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

2 years likely. People are forgetting possible Pep's gap year between jobs. By all accounts he puts a hell of a lot into his work and may want the time off to recuperate like he did after leaving Barca. And do we even know for sure yet he'll leave Bayern, because Rummenigge is always going on about him possibly extending his contract. Latest quotes: "We will find a solution. I know Pep and his family feel very good in Munich. He has not said anything against being our manager past 2016. I see him as an extremely important key to our success story that we are experiencing."

 

[BillyShears]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

My fear is that if we keep the current Manager and/or another poor transfer window, we might see more glaciers receding.

Genuine question - so lets say that we buy poorly and next season we fall out of the CL, leading to Silva and Kun demanding transfers.

What next? Will you cry? Give up your support? Demand that Sheikh Mansour sells the club to a better owner? Will you throw a party because you'll have been proven right about Txiki/Pellegrini? Will you support be less afraid when the new DoF and manager are appointed?

I'm all for discussion and I can't abide censorship. But this right here isn't a discussion. It's a collection of 8 maybe 10 posters basically sitting around dreaming up worst case scenarios and then using their dreams to criticise Txiki/Pellegrini/Khaldoon (delete as appropriate). When you mix in the histrionics of "what a wank season it's been fucking disgraceful" and that type of dumb fuck rhetoric it quickly goes from cringeworthy to rag worthy.

Anyway, you crack on with fearing the future under our inept leadership.

 

[kaz7]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

2 years likely. People are forgetting possible Pep's gap year between jobs. By all accounts he puts a hell of a lot into his work and may want the time off to recuperate like he did after leaving Barca. And do we even know for sure yet he'll leave Bayern, because Rummenigge is always going on about him possibly extending his contract. Latest quotes: "We will find a solution. I know Pep and his family feel very good in Munich. He has not said anything against being our manager past 2016. I see him as an extremely important key to our success story that we are experiencing."

I honestly don't believe he is going to come here,we should not wait like some lovesick puppies

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

My fear is that if we keep the current Manager and/or another poor transfer window, we might see more glaciers receding.

Genuine question - so lets say that we buy poorly and next season we fall out of the CL, leading to Silva and Kun demanding transfers.

What next? Will you cry? Give up your support? Demand that Sheikh Mansour sells the club to a better owner? Will you throw a party because you'll have been proven right about Txiki/Pellegrini? Will you support be less afraid when the new DoF and manager are appointed?

I'm all for discussion and I can't abide censorship. But this right here isn't a discussion. It's a collection of 8 maybe 10 posters basically sitting around dreaming up worst case scenarios and then using their dreams to criticise Txiki/Pellegrini/Khaldoon (delete as appropriate). When you mix in the histrionics of "what a wank season it's been fucking disgraceful" and that type of dumb fuck rhetoric it quickly goes from cringeworthy to rag worthy.

Anyway, you crack on with fearing the future under our inept leadership.

Have I once said any of those things MA ???
I've expressed concern at the managers decisions and at the transfers not living up to their billing. I see nothing wrong with doing that on an open Forum. You seem to have snapped or at the very least become frustrated hence your post - but please don't group me with the phrases and quotes you've responded with.
I'm sorry I've not gone away and carried on posting; instead choosing to question whether the "best case scenarios" will work out.

As for crying and giving up support- I've not done so for 40 years so why should I now? That kind of accept eveything and don't be so ungrateful attitude doesn't samck of being all for discussion to me?

 

[pudge]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

Fortunately for us the Owners and the board are successful business people and look at the bigger picture rather than short term.

We are in good hands and these guys do not make Knee Jerk reactions.

So this summer we let Pellegrini loose with a blank cheque book to bring in the players he wants to then go for Pep in 2016; assuming he agrees to join.

What if he doesn't want half the new players brought in?

Will the players be brought in with Pep in mind? Is that fair to Pellegrini?

What if Pep says no?

The club may have wanted it to play out that Pellegrini's here for 3 years and then Pep but as we hear all the time on transfers, things change. Not only could Pep go elsewhere, or stay put, or go on holidays again... but you then lose sight of the short term. How we've played well below par this season and according to reports are merely treading water and biding our time on Pep; do you sacrifice another potential trophyless season for someone who may not even agree to be the next manager? Or do we chuck a load of money around in the summer and run the risk of doing the same the next year when a new manager comes in? That would be great "bigger picture" planning...

Successful businessmen can fuck up, they can make mistakes; every football club's owner is a "successful businessman". And by seemingly putting all our eggs in Guardiola's basket, we run the risk of doing that for a second season.

This has nothing to do with Pep - it's all to do with starting the next cycle, bringing in the right players for MP and the club.

Maybe you should apply for a job at City - they are always looking for people with vision - by all accounts you know the key to the door.

My comment stands - City are not just looking at the next 2/3 years - they are looking way beyond that - I truly believe MP will be here next year and he will have some players that he can coach into playing the way they want to play.

MP's football philosophy is not too far from some of the big boys - he just needs the right tools to implement it -

In my opinion - this cycle of 5 successful years has come to an end - The RAGs have gone through it many times, Chelsea are part way through their transition. We are about to start ours - Some players just do not fit in and trusted by the looks of it

No it doesn't because you haven't addressed any of my points.

You've just posted some nonsensical personal abuse with a mix of repetitve musings.

The club has to shit or get of the pot and not tread water and ignore the short term just because they've Pep tinted glasses on.

 

[BillyShears]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

My fear is that if we keep the current Manager and/or another poor transfer window, we might see more glaciers receding.

Genuine question - so lets say that we buy poorly and next season we fall out of the CL, leading to Silva and Kun demanding transfers.

What next? Will you cry? Give up your support? Demand that Sheikh Mansour sells the club to a better owner? Will you throw a party because you'll have been proven right about Txiki/Pellegrini? Will you support be less afraid when the new DoF and manager are appointed?

I'm all for discussion and I can't abide censorship. But this right here isn't a discussion. It's a collection of 8 maybe 10 posters basically sitting around dreaming up worst case scenarios and then using their dreams to criticise Txiki/Pellegrini/Khaldoon (delete as appropriate). When you mix in the histrionics of "what a wank season it's been fucking disgraceful" and that type of dumb fuck rhetoric it quickly goes from cringeworthy to rag worthy.

Anyway, you crack on with fearing the future under our inept leadership.

Have I once said any of those things MA ???
I've expressed concern at the managers decisions and at the transfers not living up to their billing. I see nothing wrong with doing that on an open Forum. You seem to have snapped or at the very least become frustrated hence your post - but please don't group me with the phrases and quotes you've responded with.
I'm sorry I've not gone away and carried on posting; instead choosing to question whether the "best case scenarios" will work out.

As for crying and giving up support- I've not done so for 40 years so why should I now? That kind of accept eveything and don't be so ungrateful attitude doesn't samck of being all for discussion to me?

We have the best owners in the world. We can discuss the merits of a manager/player until we're blue in the face. But we're reaching a point on this forum now where the criticisms are drifting towards Khaldoon. Apparently the man should "fall on his sword". Based on comments like that, yes I'm snapping a little. Even if they aren't coming from you. I apologise if you feel I was being harsh on you.

I do think though that this place or at least parts of it has really lost sight of the bigger picture when it comes to MCFC. The project that Mansour and Khaldoon began is still in it's infancy. The academy has barely opened it's doors, we've barely been playing CL football for three seasons, hell the squad we built at the start of Mansour's time at the club still has it's core intact and is only just now coming to the end of it's cycle. We're not going anywhere. Even if you think it's wildly mad to have some esoteric idea of not just playing winning football but playing attacking football, you have to acknowledge that with our owners we'll probably still be regularly winning titles. Again, we're not going anywhere. Any blip will always just be a minor blip. Why are making mountains out of molehills and why are people wetting their panties because the club might want Pep one day in the future? Again, unless you're a moron or your head is buried up your own arse, then you'll know that even if Pep doesn't come there will be other managers out there who will also bring success to City. So why are we as a supporter base characterising our club in such negative terms?

EDIT:

As if to make my point

The club has to shit or get of the pot and not tread water and ignore the short term just because they've Pep tinted glasses on.

I honestly don't believe he is going to come here,we should not wait like some lovesick puppies

 

[kaz7]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

Genuine question - so lets say that we buy poorly and next season we fall out of the CL, leading to Silva and Kun demanding transfers.

What next? Will you cry? Give up your support? Demand that Sheikh Mansour sells the club to a better owner? Will you throw a party because you'll have been proven right about Txiki/Pellegrini? Will you support be less afraid when the new DoF and manager are appointed?

I'm all for discussion and I can't abide censorship. But this right here isn't a discussion. It's a collection of 8 maybe 10 posters basically sitting around dreaming up worst case scenarios and then using their dreams to criticise Txiki/Pellegrini/Khaldoon (delete as appropriate). When you mix in the histrionics of "what a wank season it's been fucking disgraceful" and that type of dumb fuck rhetoric it quickly goes from cringeworthy to rag worthy.

Anyway, you crack on with fearing the future under our inept leadership.

Have I once said any of those things MA ???
I've expressed concern at the managers decisions and at the transfers not living up to their billing. I see nothing wrong with doing that on an open Forum. You seem to have snapped or at the very least become frustrated hence your post - but please don't group me with the phrases and quotes you've responded with.
I'm sorry I've not gone away and carried on posting; instead choosing to question whether the "best case scenarios" will work out.

As for crying and giving up support- I've not done so for 40 years so why should I now? That kind of accept eveything and don't be so ungrateful attitude doesn't samck of being all for discussion to me?

We have the best owners in the world. We can discuss the merits of a manager/player until we're blue in the face. But we're reaching a point on this forum now where the criticisms are drifting towards Khaldoon. Apparently the man should "fall on his sword". Based on comments like that, yes I'm snapping a little. Even if they aren't coming from you. I apologise if you feel I was being harsh on you.

I do think though that this place or at least parts of it has really lost sight of the bigger picture when it comes to MCFC. The project that Mansour and Khaldoon began is still in it's infancy. The academy has barely opened it's doors, we've barely been playing CL football for three seasons, hell the squad we built at the start of Mansour's time at the club still has it's core intact and is only just now coming to the end of it's cycle. We're not going anywhere. Even if you think it's wildly mad to have some esoteric idea of not just playing winning football but playing attacking football, you have to acknowledge that with our owners we'll probably still be regularly winning titles. Again, we're not going anywhere. Any blip will always just be a minor blip. Why are making mountains out of molehills and why are people wetting their panties because the club might want Pep one day in the future? Again, unless you're a moron or your head is buried up your own arse, then you'll know that even if Pep doesn't come there will be other managers out there who will also bring success to City. So why are we as a supporter base characterising our club in such negative terms?

EDIT:

As if to make my point

The club has to shit or get of the pot and not tread water and ignore the short term just because they've Pep tinted glasses on.

I honestly don't believe he is going to come here,we should not wait like some lovesick puppies

Can't see your point for quoting me,i simply have not been convinced by anything i have read that he wants to be here that's all.leave me out of your rants please

 

[BillyShears]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

Can't see your point for quoting me,i simply have not been convinced by anything i have read that he wants to be here that's all.leave me out of your rants please

I don't think Pep wants to come to City either, but you don't see me slagging the club off or saying that we're waiting around like lovesick puppies. For me if you say that you're not just having a go at Txiki and Ferran, but also at Khaldoon, and that man deserves better than our supporter base sneering at him for something he's not even done and might not even be doing (waiting for Pep). Also, lets say they do plan on appointing Pep after Pellegrini, what's wrong with that? It's hardly a crime to have a plan ...

Sorry if you feel I shouldn't have quoted you, but your post made my point quite succinctly if I'm honest.

 

[pudge]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

Our club/board is not infallible as some like to pretend.

Genuine question - so lets say that we buy poorly and next season we fall out of the CL, leading to Silva and Kun demanding transfers.

What next? Will you cry? Give up your support? Demand that Sheikh Mansour sells the club to a better owner? Will you throw a party because you'll have been proven right about Txiki/Pellegrini? Will you support be less afraid when the new DoF and manager are appointed?

I'm all for discussion and I can't abide censorship. But this right here isn't a discussion. It's a collection of 8 maybe 10 posters basically sitting around dreaming up worst case scenarios and then using their dreams to criticise Txiki/Pellegrini/Khaldoon (delete as appropriate). When you mix in the histrionics of "what a wank season it's been fucking disgraceful" and that type of dumb fuck rhetoric it quickly goes from cringeworthy to rag worthy.

Anyway, you crack on with fearing the future under our inept leadership.

Have I once said any of those things MA ???
I've expressed concern at the managers decisions and at the transfers not living up to their billing. I see nothing wrong with doing that on an open Forum. You seem to have snapped or at the very least become frustrated hence your post - but please don't group me with the phrases and quotes you've responded with.
I'm sorry I've not gone away and carried on posting; instead choosing to question whether the "best case scenarios" will work out.

As for crying and giving up support- I've not done so for 40 years so why should I now? That kind of accept eveything and don't be so ungrateful attitude doesn't samck of being all for discussion to me?

We have the best owners in the world. We can discuss the merits of a manager/player until we're blue in the face. But we're reaching a point on this forum now where the criticisms are drifting towards Khaldoon. Apparently the man should "fall on his sword". Based on comments like that, yes I'm snapping a little. Even if they aren't coming from you. I apologise if you feel I was being harsh on you.

I do think though that this place or at least parts of it has really lost sight of the bigger picture when it comes to MCFC. The project that Mansour and Khaldoon began is still in it's infancy. The academy has barely opened it's doors, we've barely been playing CL football for three seasons, hell the squad we built at the start of Mansour's time at the club still has it's core intact and is only just now coming to the end of it's cycle. We're not going anywhere. Even if you think it's wildly mad to have some esoteric idea of not just playing winning football but playing attacking football, you have to acknowledge that with our owners we'll probably still be regularly winning titles. Again, we're not going anywhere. Any blip will always just be a minor blip. Why are making mountains out of molehills and why are people wetting their panties because the club might want Pep one day in the future? Again, unless you're a moron or your head is buried up your own arse, then you'll know that even if Pep doesn't come there will be other managers out there who will also bring success to City. So why are we as a supporter base characterising our club in such negative terms?

EDIT:

As if to make my point

The club has to shit or get of the pot and not tread water and ignore the short term just because they've Pep tinted glasses on.

I honestly don't believe he is going to come here,we should not wait like some lovesick puppies

As if to make my point...

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Re: Ancelotti to City??

Genuine question - so lets say that we buy poorly and next season we fall out of the CL, leading to Silva and Kun demanding transfers.

What next? Will you cry? Give up your support? Demand that Sheikh Mansour sells the club to a better owner? Will you throw a party because you'll have been proven right about Txiki/Pellegrini? Will you support be less afraid when the new DoF and manager are appointed?

I'm all for discussion and I can't abide censorship. But this right here isn't a discussion. It's a collection of 8 maybe 10 posters basically sitting around dreaming up worst case scenarios and then using their dreams to criticise Txiki/Pellegrini/Khaldoon (delete as appropriate). When you mix in the histrionics of "what a wank season it's been fucking disgraceful" and that type of dumb fuck rhetoric it quickly goes from cringeworthy to rag worthy.

Anyway, you crack on with fearing the future under our inept leadership.

Have I once said any of those things MA ???
I've expressed concern at the managers decisions and at the transfers not living up to their billing. I see nothing wrong with doing that on an open Forum. You seem to have snapped or at the very least become frustrated hence your post - but please don't group me with the phrases and quotes you've responded with.
I'm sorry I've not gone away and carried on posting; instead choosing to question whether the "best case scenarios" will work out.

As for crying and giving up support- I've not done so for 40 years so why should I now? That kind of accept eveything and don't be so ungrateful attitude doesn't samck of being all for discussion to me?

We have the best owners in the world. We can discuss the merits of a manager/player until we're blue in the face. But we're reaching a point on this forum now where the criticisms are drifting towards Khaldoon. Apparently the man should "fall on his sword". Based on comments like that, yes I'm snapping a little. Even if they aren't coming from you. I apologise if you feel I was being harsh on you.

I do think though that this place or at least parts of it has really lost sight of the bigger picture when it comes to MCFC. The project that Mansour and Khaldoon began is still in it's infancy. The academy has barely opened it's doors, we've barely been playing CL football for three seasons, hell the squad we built at the start of Mansour's time at the club still has it's core intact and is only just now coming to the end of it's cycle. We're not going anywhere. Even if you think it's wildly mad to have some esoteric idea of not just playing winning football but playing attacking football, you have to acknowledge that with our owners we'll probably still be regularly winning titles. Again, we're not going anywhere. Any blip will always just be a minor blip. Why are making mountains out of molehills and why are people wetting their panties because the club might want Pep one day in the future? Again, unless you're a moron or your head is buried up your own arse, then you'll know that even if Pep doesn't come there will be other managers out there who will also bring success to City. So why are we as a supporter base characterising our club in such negative terms?

EDIT:

As if to make my point

The club has to shit or get of the pot and not tread water and ignore the short term just because they've Pep tinted glasses on.

I honestly don't believe he is going to come here,we should not wait like some lovesick puppies

Look MA - I think you take it too much to heart, we probably both do. It's a forum, City is a football club, we are football supporters, opinions will always differ. I agree totally that some posters go over the top, but utlimately this is not North Korea and as much as you'd like to be - you are not are Kim Jong-un ;-)

Are City in the most unbelievable place in terms of ownership? - Of course. Will City become a very successful Club in the long term? - Of course. The debate is about what is happening now - it would be a very boring forum just to keep saying - everything will be great, the future's ours, the power's that be know best. Right now the team hasn't had the best season and people want to discuss that. It's not ingratitude it's what football fans, pundits etc the World over do.