Dispatches/Sunday Times investigation: Russell Brand accused of rape and sexual assault

Of course they're entitled to have what they want on their platform, it just seems you only get de-platformed or your ability to monetise your content is blocked if your theories are targeted towards a certain directions.

In this instance, he's had his youtube channel for a long time, but suddenly they won't let him make money from it, 2 days after these allegations come out, and yes at this point its still allegations. So its clearly not down to some breach of their rules is it? Let's be honest about that. I'm sure they'll say it is, but you're not that naive are you?

I mean channels like The Young Turks and others make all sorts of theories about what people would consider the right, no different to what Alex Jones, Brand etc do, but for some reason they don't run into any Terms Of Service problems when their target is in the opposite direction. Funny that isn't it?

Whether Brand is guilty or not, that's yet to be determined, he may well be. But if we're looking at this objectively, he's simply had his revenue stream cut off on the basis of allegations that come out a couple of days ago. I just don't think it sets a good precedent generally. Courts exist for reason.
I've no idea what The Young Turks is and I've no idea what your post is driving at as it seems to me it's all over the place. Your first paragraph makes absolutely no sense. You're implying that they're only doing it because he holds certain views, yet they've allowed him to air those views with impunity for years, but bizarrely by the end of your post you're saying that they've done it because of the allegations. Make your mind up mate.
 
Russell brand is a twat. My wife convinced me he was good, along with a few other talentless tossers who have made the big time recently.

But what gets me is the way the industry did nothing.
I understand lesser known names couldn't bring it to the forefront, but he mixed with some people, some stars who were bigger than him, who's name carried a lot more weight, yet they said nothing, and even partied with him and joined in with his shiteness.

Those people should be ashamed.
Just have to look at what is happened with the Danny Masterson rape conviction and ensuing scandal involving Ashton Kutcher. Specifically how Mila Kunas has been groomed and brainwashed since she was 14 to support, by all accounts, some pretty horrible men (with so many “it has been the best kept secret in Hollywood that they were abusers and perhaps even worse” comments coming out now). And she is still doing it, even after the backlash to them sending a letter of support to the judge asking for a lenient sentence.

As @threespires said, our society is willing to look past all manner of sin when you are highly productive (and especially a man). And women are continually exploited, from a very young age, to support that system.
 
I thought the same, but it's a suspension whilst they investigate his potential crimes.

If he is guilty though, and youtube have allowed him to monetise his YT account whilst being a rapist for example that would be more wrong.
Far better doing it this way than continuing to pay him.

Perhaps what they should do is continue to collect revenue from his channel, and hold it until their is either a conviction or an acquittal.

If he's found not guilty, simply pay him what he's owed. If he is guilty, give the money to charity, and shut his channel down permanently.
 
They demonetised him. He can still spout whatever nonsense he wants on the platform, he just can’t make money off it.

But I suppose to grifters that is the same as being deplatformed.
He could always set up a Go Fund Me page. No doubt millions of his followers will be more than happy to donate given that they're so far down the rabbit hole that they believe every word of shite that comes out of his mouth
 
Russell brand is a twat. My wife convinced me he was good, along with a few other talentless tossers who have made the big time recently.

But what gets me is the way the industry did nothing.
I understand lesser known names couldn't bring it to the forefront, but he mixed with some people, some stars who were bigger than him, who's name carried a lot more weight, yet they said nothing, and even partied with him and joined in with his shiteness.

Those people should be ashamed.

Yeah but if he has raped a woman, it doesn't necessarily mean his mates knew about it does it?

Everyone and their dog knew he was notorious for shagging women, and clearly it was mostly with consent but there's nothing illegal about that, whether it's 1 person or 2000 people he sleeps with.

Even in the documentary, there was only one claim of actual rape, so if he has done it, it's highly likely he hasn't told his friends.

So all his mates probably knew is he was just their mate that was clearly notorious for banging as many women as he could and they probably assumed it was all with consent. So what exactly can they report or be ashamed about?

Even most serial killers were someone's friend and family that just hasn't been found out.

Hindsight is 20/20.
 
Yeah but if he has raped a woman, it doesn't necessarily mean his mates knew about it does it?

Everyone and their dog knew he was notorious for shagging women, and clearly it was mostly with consent but there's nothing illegal about that, whether it's 1 person or 2000 people he sleeps with.

Even in the documentary, there was only one claim of actual rape, so if he has done it, it's highly likely he hasn't told his friends.

So all his mates probably knew is he was just their mate that was clearly notorious for banging as many women as he could and they probably assumed it was all with consent. So what exactly can they report or be ashamed about?

Even most serial killers were someone's friend and family that just hasn't been found out.

Hindsight is 20/20.
Not sure the serial killer analogy holds up in this instance, unless their friends and family were aware of them going out with many people and those people then regularly disappearing.

And the general issue is with various people who knew him (or of him) now coming out and saying there was always an understanding that he was not fully above board with his treatment of women.

In those cases, it is perfectly reasonable to ask why they never spoke up before.

They may have had valid reasons (fear of retribution being most common) but they don’t absolve them of the ethical failing of not speaking up or allow them to stay on the high ground now.

Integrity is not an easy thing to maintain and we shouldn’t make it easy.
 
Yeah but if he has raped a woman, it doesn't necessarily mean his mates knew about it does it?

Everyone and their dog knew he was notorious for shagging women, and clearly it was mostly with consent but there's nothing illegal about that, whether it's 1 person or 2000 people he sleeps with.

Even in the documentary, there was only one claim of actual rape, so if he has done it, it's highly likely he hasn't told his friends.

So all his mates probably knew is he was just their mate that was clearly notorious for banging as many women as he could and they probably assumed it was all with consent. So what exactly can they report or be ashamed about?

Even most serial killers were someone's friend and family that just hasn't been found out.

Hindsight is 20/20.
I do think, given all the whispers about him that they would have dropped him like a stone, not gone out partying with him.

But you're defence of him sounds confused. You say clearly mostly consensual but then what's wrong with shagging 1000 women. Do you really think this is some conspiracy ?
 
Yeah but if he has raped a woman, it doesn't necessarily mean his mates knew about it does it?

Everyone and their dog knew he was notorious for shagging women, and clearly it was mostly with consent but there's nothing illegal about that, whether it's 1 person or 2000 people he sleeps with.

Even in the documentary, there was only one claim of actual rape, so if he has done it, it's highly likely he hasn't told his friends.

So all his mates probably knew is he was just their mate that was clearly notorious for banging as many women as he could and they probably assumed it was all with consent. So what exactly can they report or be ashamed about?

Even most serial killers were someone's friend and family that just hasn't been found out.

Hindsight is 20/20.
Katherine Ryan outed his as a rapist quite some time ago.

She's probably the powerful woman on the comedy circuit, and she said she had been told to be careful what she said, because it was obviously only second hand information.

Many of these allegations appear to relate to women who were outside the business, or who had a lot less power.
 
Glad they've done it.
And I admire those brave women who have come forward, it's a huge thing for a woman to come up against a world famous star.
Remembering the Harvey Weinstein thing, it was brave women who outed him.
So he's guilty then?

As is Mendy? Kevin Spacey?

Yes, assuming those women are genuine, I have nothing but admiration for them, but with nothing more than (currently) unsubstantiated allegations, he should not be treated as guilty, no matter how big a **** he is in other ways
 
Maybe they weren't previously aware of them until now? I highly doubt that they'd have spooled through hundreds of hours of his material across multiple TV channels before giving him a platform
The Andrew Sachs affair would surely be enough on its own, your argument doesn't hold water for me sorry
 
I'd like to know what David ickes take is on all this..he knows what is really going on
 
The Andrew Sachs affair would surely be enough on its own, your argument doesn't hold water for me sorry
So what are you saying then? That it's a complete coincidence that they've decided to cut his revenue stream a couple of days after the allegations surfaced and that they haven't done it because of the allegations? I'm struggling to see what the alternative reason is.
 
Yeah but if he has raped a woman, it doesn't necessarily mean his mates knew about it does it?

Everyone and their dog knew he was notorious for shagging women, and clearly it was mostly with consent but there's nothing illegal about that, whether it's 1 person or 2000 people he sleeps with.

Even in the documentary, there was only one claim of actual rape, so if he has done it, it's highly likely he hasn't told his friends.

So all his mates probably knew is he was just their mate that was clearly notorious for banging as many women as he could and they probably assumed it was all with consent. So what exactly can they report or be ashamed about?

Even most serial killers were someone's friend and family that just hasn't been found out.

Hindsight is 20/20.
Seriously, WTF?
 

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