Pam said:I suppose if we can maintain the good home form next season and significant improve when we're away, then top five would not be out of the question.
whitefield_blue said:Just a shame ive wasted about £700 this season watching us get beat away
Nixon_The_Bike_Thief said:whitefield_blue said:Just a shame ive wasted about £700 this season watching us get beat away
Thats not a waste Whitefield ! Thats just City's way of keeping it real ;o)
Project said:I don't think we can call it either way from where we are to be honest. He managed Wales and Blackburn and took them as far as they were ever likely to go given their size/resource. And that never really meant any more than respectable Premier League finishes, good cup runs and the odd shock for Wales vs Italy.
Even the best managers had to start from somewhere. And I very much doubt any manager in the world could have done more with Wales and Blackburn than Hughes did. So I think judging him on not winning trophies with those two sides is quite frankly ludicrous.
That said, City represent a very different proposition to the situations he has previously been in (and excelled in). The only way we will find out is if he gets a fair shot at. It takes a lot more than just money to become a top side. It requires a change in ethos, culture and mentality. We've had 30 years of failure. That mentality lies very deep within the club in all facets. Money or no money, it would take any manager a good few years to reverse that culture. So I believe its imperative that Hughes gets an absolute minimum of 2 years, but ideally 3, before we can start judging his ability to achieve the kind of success the fans and owners want.
In the meantime, things like money spent, premier league position this year and other suchs things are not good barometers of Hughes' ability to succeed. We are deep in transition and you expect things to be rocky while that happens. You can't turn fat into muscle. You have to invest in muscle whilst cutting out the fat - only after a sustained period of this will you come out looking lean. What i'm saying is spending a ton of money in 6 months doesn't reverse the ills of 30 years.[/quote
Good post mate
One of the players did say in Jan that we need 3 transfer windows
Project said:I don't think we can call it either way from where we are to be honest. He managed Wales and Blackburn and took them as far as they were ever likely to go given their size/resource. And that never really meant any more than respectable Premier League finishes, good cup runs and the odd shock for Wales vs Italy.
Even the best managers had to start from somewhere. And I very much doubt any manager in the world could have done more with Wales and Blackburn than Hughes did. So I think judging him on not winning trophies with those two sides is quite frankly ludicrous.
That said, City represent a very different proposition to the situations he has previously been in (and excelled in). The only way we will find out is if he gets a fair shot at. It takes a lot more than just money to become a top side. It requires a change in ethos, culture and mentality. We've had 30 years of failure. That mentality lies very deep within the club in all facets. Money or no money, it would take any manager a good few years to reverse that culture. So I believe its imperative that Hughes gets an absolute minimum of 2 years, but ideally 3, before we can start judging his ability to achieve the kind of success the fans and owners want.
In the meantime, things like money spent, premier league position this year and other such things are not good barometers of Hughes' ability to succeed. We are deep in transition and you expect things to be rocky while that happens. You can't turn fat into muscle. You have to invest in muscle whilst cutting out the fat - only after a sustained period of this will you come out looking lean. What i'm saying is spending a ton of money in 6 months doesn't reverse the ills of 30 years.
Pam said:And I tend to agree with 5. I don't think Hughes has entirely lost the small time mentality he had to have when he was at Blackburn. I'm still annoyed about the RSC thing as well, though possibly not as annoyed as the Blackburn Rovers board are likely to be on that score.