Donald Trump

hihosilva said:
Trump complaining about some NATO countries not paying their way & suggesting Russia do what ever they like.
Maybe he should take a look at his own finances & pay his taxes like the rest.
How can any American citizen vote for this clown.
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How much 'paying their way' are Israel doing with their current genocide? It seems he doesn't mind the US bankrolling certain hideous regimes for decades, but he draws the line at countries that don't start wars.
 
buckshot said:
This isn’t a “what if” scenario, literally every GQPer who isn’t with him on a fascist takeover of govt has been purged. If he were to win the USA becomes Gilead and Europe is handed to Putin. WWIii will be Russia leading a coalition of USA, China, and all other dictatorships against democracy.
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Totally agree however Russia has shown it wouldn’t have a chance against Western Europe.
 
buckshot said:
You're right, the US of today isn't comparable. But the day Dumb Donald gets back into office that won't be the case. His lawyers are in court arguing that a sitting POTUS is immune from prosecution of all crimes up to and including the murder of his political enemies and his advisors have already endorsed turning the military on American citizens. He's running ads about taking ridding the government of all "deep state" operatives (ie anybody who wants to limit his power). What does that mean? It means judges will either clear the way for him to do what he wants or they'll be killed. He's also talked about banning news outlets who criticize him so that's another check that will be gone. So we'll have a Putin-loving egomaniac with a thirst for vengeance in charge of the most powerful military on the planet.

He also praises Putin, Xi and Kim Jong Un for being smart because the "rule with an iron fist" (he's said this many times) and has nothing but disdain for the democracies of western Europe because their leaders don't say nice things about him. Dissolving NATO would probably happen in the first month or two and then Putin would be free to start invading former Soviet states, Poland and other countries in eastern Europe. At that point fascists in Germany/Italy would start with the terrorist attacks and the movement will spread. This is not a joke, he's deadly serious about these things and talks about them openly. They just had their head of propaganda (Tucker Carlson) over in Russia interviewing Putin and trying to make him look good to American voters. They've also had Orban speak at their GQP conferences in the US. They've gone way beyond the flirting stage with fascists and are now giving them an under-the-table hand jibber.
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Worth noting the President doesn’t have the power to pull out of NATO, needs a 2/3 majority in the Senate.

That was passed last year even with this current joke of a Congress.

Edit. I see this has been covered since.
 
The thing that should really irritate NATO allies about his comments is that article 5 has been invoked exactly once. When the USA was attacked on September 11th, NATO lined up as per its international obligations and hundreds of troops from the UK and 30 other NATO countries and allies have since died in the name of responding to an attack on US sovereign territory. When their situation was dire, NATO came to help. Because that was the deal.

Now Europe is under threat and this **** is encouraging Russia to do its worst and would pull out of NATO in a heartbeat if he had the chance. Hundreds of young men came through Wootton Bassett dead in boxes in the name of this alliance, and Trump might as well be telling them all to get fucked. Beyond shameful. And shame on those who would vote for him. Absolute snivelling dishonourable traitors of the worst kind.
 
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