Donald Trump

Or has studied the demographics since 2020, the constant polling errors, the economy and believes there is absolutely zero good news for Trump in any of the above.
Or has looked at 2016 and the Access Hollywood revelation days before the election... and for WTF ever reason, Trump won - shocking even Trump himself.

Dude - the 2024 election is going to be down to a handful of swing states due the screwed up electoral college. I hope you're right predicting that Biden will win hands down. But I've zero confidence that you are correct or are in fact incorrect. Beats me what will happen either way.

Truth is, nobody fucking knows. And at this point, is pretty goddamn close either way.
 
Yeah, reading that hasn’t changed my mind.
The fact the narcissistic, sociopathic, racist misogynist is in the race tells its own story and those are his fucking plus points.
And yet, Hitler came to power.

Nobody fucking knows who will for sure win the 2024 election - and right now, it's pretty goddamn close either way.
 
Or has looked at 2016 and the Access Hollywood revelation days before the election... and for WTF ever reason, Trump won - shocking even Trump himself.
You’re aware several things have happened since 2016 and the Access Hollywood revelation yeah?

2016 Trump was an unknown quantity.

2016 Trump had plenty of Indy’s thinking “Well let’s give him a shot and see. What’s the worst that can happen?”

2016 Trump doesn’t exist anymore. Every voter that has the remotest of open mind knows what Trump was like in Office. They know he colluded with Russia. They know he’s twice Impeached. They know he sexually assaulted E Jean Carrol to a standard that would be considered rape. They know he’s a fraud. They know he’s been ordered to pay nearly half a billion in fines. They know he wants to leave NATO. They know he’s in Putin’s pocket.

Trump lost the last election in 2020. As the fucking incumbent. That’s something that rarely happens in the US. He then went on to ferment an insurrection, a stupid person coup. He was impeached a second time after losing the election. A good proportion of his voting base from 2016 and 2020 has died since that time.

As I say, my money, both literally and metaphorically, is on a Trump loss, and likely by more than in 2020. I don’t believe there’s a single thing that gives him more of a chance than he had when he last lost the election.

But by all means, worry as much as you want and worry on my behalf if you must. A wise man once said to me that “worrying about something you have no means of affecting is very similar to riding a rocking horse. It gives you something to do, but it won’t get you anywhere.”

We’ll both find out the results at the same time but I’d rather be sanguine between now and November.
 
You’re aware several things have happened since 2016 and the Access Hollywood revelation yeah?

2016 Trump was an unknown quantity.

2016 Trump had plenty of Indy’s thinking “Well let’s give him a shot and see. What’s the worst that can happen?”

2016 Trump doesn’t exist anymore. Every voter that has the remotest of open mind knows what Trump was like in Office. They know he colluded with Russia. They know he’s twice Impeached. They know he sexually assaulted E Jean Carrol to a standard that would be considered rape. They know he’s a fraud. They know he’s been ordered to pay nearly half a billion in fines. They know he wants to leave NATO. They know he’s in Putin’s pocket.

Trump lost the last election in 2020. As the fucking incumbent. That’s something that rarely happens in the US. He then went on to ferment an insurrection, a stupid person coup. He was impeached a second time after losing the election. A good proportion of his voting base from 2016 and 2020 has died since that time.

As I say, my money, both literally and metaphorically, is on a Trump loss, and likely by more than in 2020. I don’t believe there’s a single thing that gives him more of a chance than he had when he last lost the election.

But by all means, worry as much as you want and worry on my behalf if you must. A wise man once said to me that “worrying about something you have no means of affecting is very similar to riding a rocking horse. It gives you something to do, but it won’t get you anywhere.”

We’ll both find out the results at the same time but I’d rather be sanguine between now and November.
>> We’ll both find out the results at the same time but I’d rather be sanguine between now and November.
From a mental health perspective, sanguine optimism in a hoped-for future is probably optimal. From a cold, disinterested perspective, unfounded optimism is detrimental towards accurate prediction of future outcomes.

Me? I'm not confident either way. I'm extremely hopeful, though - but not at all sanguine at this point - that BIden will win.
 
You seem a bit confused. I’ll let you rant away for a bit, get it out of your system.
You seem to be posturing - strike that, you are posturing.

Almost nobody thought that Trump would win election in 2016 - but he did.

In 2024, the majority opinion is that the election is going to be close and that Trump has a real chance, or is perhaps even favorite to win.

And yet, you're in some sort of denialism over this basic fact.
 
>> We’ll both find out the results at the same time but I’d rather be sanguine between now and November.
From a mental health perspective, sanguine optimism in a hoped-for future is probably optimal. From a cold, disinterested perspective, unfounded optimism is detrimental towards accurate prediction of future outcomes.

Me? I'm not confident either way. I'm extremely hopeful, though - but not at all sanguine at this point - that BIden will win.

Trump is on one of the biggest losing streaks of all time.

2018 - Massive midterm defeat, loses 40 seats.
2020 - First president to not get a second term in 30 years.
2022 - Massive midterm defeat where all his personally endorsed candidates lost.


He's lost to E Jean Carrol, he's lost to Fanni Willis and SDNY, Truth social has gone from 85m users to 5m users in a year, and he's broke and living off bought favours. 86 felonies left and he's dead to rights in most of them. $530m in fines owed and counting.

Yeah he won in 2016 when people thought it was a toss up - but he was the actual favourite in the last 3 elections and he's been kicked to the curb by the electorate.

His campaign isn't even raising enough money to pay for it's costs.
 
For those still in the Biden-can't-possibly-lose-reality-distortion-bubble...

It's too bad that Whatever-The-Fuck-His-Name-Was-From-Ohio isn't still on here. WTF-Ohio (WTFO) wasn't ultra MAGA in his hatred of emigrants, and presumably of America's role in the world as a leader of Democracy... rather, WTFO was a Fox News, yellow dog Republican - that is, he'd rather vote for a yellow dog running for Republican than a Democrat.

WTFO brushed off Trump's conviction for sexual assault against E.G Carroll, and excused Trump's under-oath testimony that it was OK for a "star" to grab a woman's pussy as regrettable! TWFO argued that, in context, Trump's deposition should be viewed as braggadocio! Unbelievable.

And therein is the trap - we, who are not caught in the right-wing propaganda bubble cannot fathom the possibility that any rational, moral human would vote for Trump. Whereas, reality is that numerous otherwise decent, moral humans are caught up in the right-wing propaganda spider web, hopelessly entangled, and immune to rational argument against their beliefs.
 

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