Dont ever doubt Garry Cook again......

mackenzie said:
bluem0ng said:
Do you actually believe that anything Garry Cook says will affect the motivation of their players?

Let's also ignore the fact he was speaking at a City Supporters meeting and is obviously going to big up the club

Anything Cook says will never motivate our players. That's obvious.

But if SAF has a bloody article from Mr Cook pinned to their bloody changing room wall as "motivation" then Cook is at fault.

Agreed?

Might be hard to imagine, but not outside the realms of possibility.

But Cook is not needed to motivate teh players that;s why we have Bobby!
TBH I dont care what SAF has pinned to the wall - if we play to our best we can go through on the night

believe me - this is ths most important game for Alex in a long time!!!
 
mackenzie said:
Bluemoon115 said:
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Not questioning your allegiance, but your failing to see the bigger picture.

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And I think that is the difference between us bluemoon115.

I don't want to see the "bigger picture" at this time, I want to focus on us winning on Wednesday and going on to lift ONE BLOODY TROPHY.

That is all.

You can look at "world domination," just like Cook......but it is a pipe dream at this time.

One step at a time eh?

I could not agree more.

Focus is absolutely crucial and Cook's comments are a potentially dangerous distraction from the job at hand.
 
Bluemoon115 said:
mackenzie said:
And I think that is the difference between us bluemoon115.

I don't want to see the "bigger picture" at this time, I want to focus on us winning on Wednesday and going on to lift ONE BLOODY TROPHY.

That is all.

You can look at "world domination," just like Cook......but it is a pipe dream at this time.

One step at a time eh?
Ideally 1 step at a time would be the way forward.

But in less than 3 years Platini's new laws come into effect, and we are buggered for getting into the CL if we're not getting that extra income.

Cook, and his co-workers (who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw) have to start moving their plans forward, and have to start acting on them right now. There is no time for modesty.

OK, so how do they do it? By pissing people off?

Because Cook has a tendency to do that in public.

What is he doing behind the scenes (serious question)?

If it is all good then all power to him. Do you know?
 
bizzbo said:
and the tehran times thing is just an example.... this comment has got plenty of column inches in many UK newspapers. it all adds up to people becoming interested in the story and wanting to watch the match, to see what all the fuss is about. that's exactly the way people get hooked, that's exactly the kind of interest this club needs to generate to grow.

Can't argue with that but as I said, reports such as this have been happening around the world for years, it's only now that fans have a direct route to a plethora of previously inaccessible media sources, that they are noticing it here. It's no biggie. I'm not being anti-GC, I'm just a little surprised that anyone would be so naive to think that this example could in any way be used to endorse his credentials as an ambassador for the club. It is not a brilliantly-executed, precision strike on the media outlets of the world planned by GC's laser-like mind. It's just business as usual, that's all.
 
bizzbo said:
nobody has come close to explaining to me how a club that venerates franny lee and big mal could possibly count modesty as one of it's core values. we've seen it on here today. it means something to some people, but not others.... are you sure it's not just one of your values, as opposed to a core value of the club?

and the tehran times thing is just an example.... this comment has got plenty of column inches in many UK newspapers. it all adds up to people becoming interested in the story and wanting to watch the match, to see what all the fuss is about. that's exactly the way people get hooked, that's exactly the kind of interest this club needs to generate to grow.

THAT IS IT. SIMPLY. GOLD.

I, myself, am just an example of that, well closer than Iran, indeed, but matching the same issue.
I went here, accidentally, because of my personal hero's appointment at City, and then start discovering, discovering, discovering, enjoing, enjoing, enjoing, tradition, culture, fairness, mutual displeasement about the fucking baconface and slaves allaround.... hooked.

Off corse, I won't never be more fan than those Manchester born, but since now I didn't already lost a City game on tv (had withdrawn a fucking date to watch everton's game), while I used to watch twice a year just because I love English football. Since now I everyday read each and every line on City website an every article on major papers and bbc/Sky websites. I' m already planning to come to CoMS for as much CL fixture I might efford... In turn, I've been casually hooked to be a Blues.
 
mackenzie said:
Bluemoon115 said:
Ideally 1 step at a time would be the way forward.

But in less than 3 years Platini's new laws come into effect, and we are buggered for getting into the CL if we're not getting that extra income.

Cook, and his co-workers (who I wouldn't trust as far as I could throw) have to start moving their plans forward, and have to start acting on them right now. There is no time for modesty.

OK, so how do they do it? By pissing people off?

Because Cook has a tendency to do that in public.

What is he doing behind the scenes (serious question)?

If it is all good then all power to him. Do you know?
The only people he's pissing off is rival fans. And they are of no interest to him anyway.

As I just explained, he's reaching out to the American audience and offering them something new, and doing so in the "in your face" style that appeals to that market.

Like I said, on a proffesional level, he's doing a lot of right things, though it might not look like it just yet.
 
Fair play bluespana but the blues in new york have always been there and always will,ive come on here and seen blues from everywhere (clued up blues) ive just never wanted to be on sky news,look at tommy johnson and his mates in that bar in malaysia,this is now a city bar says garry cook.

Im sorry hes trying to be peter kenyon.

Why cant somebody who is actually city promote our club, im sure them lads in new york would of rather seen owen,sumerbee than him??
 
MANCIO4EVER said:
Perahps I move too far ahead with the following opinion, but however, pls start by reading this real piece (which is worth a laugh overall) of art from the independent:

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ian-herbert-neville-must-stop-raging-against-the-dying-light-1874105.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 74105.html</a>

Then my proposed opinion:
What common people sometimes are difficult to understand is that action/behavior from top sided people might arise from not common/skilfull knowledge of very dark arguments , such us the handling of power.
Now, has anybody already noticed a slightly "different mood" of papers about City? Still very minoritarian indeed, but imo quite clear.
I hardly can immagine that an article like that, so "tranchant" about a flagholder of the still powerfull Utd, would have been written and published last year on a serious paper like independent.

My point is: is the CEO a foul because never played football, or perhaps his overstating action is well aware? It is not possible that this so unpopular way of conduct be meant to warn the media that the balance of powers (in football) is ongoing and, maybe not next year, perhaps even not the next next year, but definitely within 3 years there will be another club ruling over league table and tv audience?

Btw, and specially because of the fact that I joined because I am a Mancini fan, is not a simple matter of fact that City is already at a level where it had not been for last decades, neither when managed on field by the greatest football manager ever: Sven Goran Erikson (the actual very best ever I mean)?
And if this is true as it is, who either than the CEO is responsible for this already acheived success?

mancio mancio mancio. there is what we call a 'sea-change' underway. I could find you several even more astonishing articles to support your theory. the automatic deference to Utd and ferguson has come to an abrupt end.

this is my favourite...


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jan/15/harry-pearson-sir-alex-ferguson" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... x-ferguson</a>

I'm not sure if it's me or the gum-chewing, prune-faced Glaswegian who is losing it most

"I have started to feel sorry for Sir Alex Ferguson."

When a German friend phoned after Manchester United's defeat to Leeds and said, "Ferguson called the fact there was only five minutes injury time 'an insult to football'. An insult to football? Has he never once listened to himself talking in the last 15 years?"

Yes, I admit there was part of me that joined him in his outrage, and yet as I recall the scene I now hear clearly the other voice in my head that day, the voice that was saying softly, "Oh, poor Fergie, he's really starting to sound desperate these days."

There comes a point when the passer-by stops looking at the wild-eyed man ranting on the corner and thinking "maybe I should call the police before he hurts someone" starts to think "maybe I should call the social services before someone hurts him". And this is the point we are at now, I fear.

harry pearson and the guardian have gone out of their way to show their complete lack of respect for the man who, for years, demonstrated his power over football, and maintained deference and obedience amongst the media, by refusing to talk to the most powerful broadcaster in the world.

in the same week, city's 2-1 win was lauded as a coming of age.

even a sceptic would have to admit there HAS been a change in the balance of power.

the public revelation of the darkest secrets held in utd's accounts has been a major factor, no doubt, but that doesn't explain why Fergie himself has been transformed from 'he-who-must-be-obeyed' into a figure of fun and pity.

My feeling is that City have done everything they can to get the world to watch these two games, or at least read the story of them, and 'see' the balance of power shift.

I don't want to give Cook undue credit. I do think I have seen what look like glimpses of intelligence behind his eyes at the times when he is supposedly making an idiot out of himself, but there are more compelling characters in this 'plot'.

I certainly think that Khaldoun and the Sheik are consumate power-brokers. The story of the Sheik's father, and the politics of the UAE and Abu-Dhabi are fascinating... the achievements on a scale dwarfing football rivalries, are incredible, the political and strategic intelligence of the man is legendary in that part of the world
 
Promotion?

Raising the profile?


People seem to forget that MCFC is a football club. They need to succeed on the pitch. The ONLY measure of an executive is whether they add or detract from that goal.

Now, can anybody tell me how Garrrrrrrrrrry Cook shooting his mouth off at this time has done anything at all to contribute to us beating Scunthorpe tomorrow and Utd on Weds? Because as far as I can see he has just created a media storm that no manager anywhere would ever want going into two important games.
 
Give some thought to what both Hughes and Mancini have said over the past year. They need people in the squad that are leaders and winners because the mentality of the players has to change. A certain level of arrogance is needed to win, you have to have confidence that you are the best and you can and will win, because you won't otherwise.

Maybe in the same way, the mentality of the fans needs to change as well. Cook didn't say we're already on top of the world, but he's saying we will be. Not maybe we can, not a timid I hope we will be, but WE WILL BE the best. It is arrogant, but personally I'd rather have people leading the club that do believe this. Of course we don't want to become as arrogant as the scum, but until everyone starts to believe, it's going to be an uphill climb.

Believe!
 

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